Recovery class

[lostone]

Thought I would trow this out there.

IF your willing to give the class down in Spotsylvania (my house) I have a cherokee that can be rolled over, stuck, ect to be used to "recover" I also have the land (wooded) to hold it on.

Just a thought.

[Fifthpro]

Ol SNAP! Now that is an awesome offer!!

Having the Cherokee that can be rolled would work into a 201 series of classes nicely; Righting a rolled vehicle, extracting an injured driver, using the Jack Mate with the High Lift for extracting, etc.....

With that being said, I do not know when the 201 Series of classes will be launched. I do know that the BOD were looking for a location for the 101 recovery classes. JeepinSolider is PI'ing that block of instruction and may be contacting you soon.

One question about the land. Does it have elevation, water or rock on it? Trying to see what it has to offer in terms of training scenarios.

[H2_RECOVERY]

Chad, that is a sweet idea. I will run it past everyone else and maybe we can set a date to have an extraction class .

[JeepinSoldier]

Thought I would trow this out there.

IF your willing to give the class down in Spotsylvania (my house) I have a cherokee that can be rolled over, stuck, ect to be used to "recover" I also have the land (wooded) to hold it on.

Just a thought.

Wow what a great offer! The training aid AND the location. I love it when a plan comes together.

[JeepinSoldier]

Ol SNAP! Now that is an awesome offer!!

Having the Cherokee that can be rolled would work into a 201 series of classes nicely; Righting a rolled vehicle, extracting an injured driver, using the Jack Mate with the High Lift for extracting, etc.....

With that being said, I do not know when the 201 Series of classes will be launched. I do know that the BOD were looking for a location for the 101 recovery classes. JeepinSolider is PI'ing that block of instruction and may be contacting you soon.

One question about the land. Does it have elevation, water or rock on it? Trying to see what it has to offer in terms of training scenarios.

Remember we discussed advanced recovery and extrication? Diddent 79 say he could teach extraction? (I can too as an EMT-B but Im rusty.)

Any way, want to review the 101 course outline I have approved already, the n develop the 201 outline while I am finishing the first class?

[Fifthpro]

JeepinSolider,
No worries on putting together a 201 Series Class Outline for review. 79CJ did volunteer for supporting medical aspects training as well as any of the other 201 recovery class stuff. We can probably work out an outline in the next week or two that we can submit to the BOD for approval. We can turn this around pretty darn quick and have it ready to sink up the month after your 101 class or when ever the schedule allows.
I will hit you off line for some cord efforts.

Cheers!

[lostone]

I am willing to let you use my property here for both classes.

Just let me know when.

[Fifthpro]

I am willing to let you use my property here for both classes.

Just let me know when.

One question about the land. Does it have elevation, water or rock on it? Trying to see what it has to offer in terms of training scenarios.

Cheers!

[elevatorguy]

I know a thing or 2 about recovery I drove tow trucks for 10yrs little ones and the big ones for tractor trailers so I'm sure I got a few tricks I can show

[JeepinSoldier]

I know a thing or 2 about recovery I drove tow trucks for 10yrs little ones and the big ones for tractor trailers so I'm sure I got a few tricks I can show

When preparing the classes all experiance is welcome. With towing experiance Im sure you would be able to provide valuable input on rigging a chain for hookup point on vehicles without tow hooks.

[Fifthpro]

I know a thing or 2 about recovery I drove tow trucks for 10yrs little ones and the big ones for tractor trailers so I'm sure I got a few tricks I can show

When preparing the classes all experiance is welcome. With towing experiance Im sure you would be able to provide valuable input on rigging a chain for hookup point on vehicles without tow hooks.

Elevator,
I assume you are talking about righting rolled vehicles, planning the recovery, etc. I am sure that he has seen some crazy scenarios in those 10 years. Hit me on the PM with details.

Cheers!

[elevatorguy]

yeah I got some stories but they'd take to long to type out As far as experiance got alot in rolling over cars changing direction of pulls snach blocks 2 3 parting line and things like that

[Fifthpro]

yeah I got some stories but they'd take to long to type out As far as experience got a lot in rolling over cars changing direction of pulls snatch blocks 2 3 parting line and things like that

That will tie in nicely with what I am looking at for part of the 201 classes. Part of it will be Post Rollover Procedures and extracting a trapped driver and using the High-Lift & Jack Mate as a "Jaws of Life". Of course all of this will be outlined and have to be approved by the BOD to ensure that it is desired as part of the forecasted training.

I PM'ed you with some thoughts.

Cheers!
Fifth

[Pacifier]

Count me in for this one.

Diego

[blthomas]

Can non-memebers attend for the value of the lesson?

My CJ may finally be driveable in the spring, but I'd love to learn the basics of recovery.

I have yet to join for lack of M&G and trail ride attendance.

So can I show up or what.........

Blair

[ToBlave]

Can non-memebers attend for the value of the lesson?

Blair

The intent is to have the classes open to non-members. Most of these are safety oriented and we would like to see everyone being safety conscious out in the wood, on the rocks and in the fields.

The first one or two might be member only to work the kinks out of the lesson material and exercises. For you, Blair, just about all of us know you and if you want to subject yourself to our non-polished version then I have no problem with it. We will probably pepper you with questions about presentation and understandability of the material for the "honor". :wink:

[H2_RECOVERY]

OMG He said honor

[lostone]

Man, There will not be anything left of my poor cherokee....


Neverless, I can tow it to a spot thats not to far if you guys can come up with a place to have it. Just remember, that it does NOT RUN so it would have to be a spot I can get my trailer into without tearing everthing to hell

[blthomas]

If you guys want to consider a alternate place, we have some land in the family in Northern Culpeper County.

It's maybe 10 or 15 minutes from Remington off Rte. 29, about 5 minutes from the Faquier County line.

A couple open fields, woods, a creek, some grade breaks, couple small hills in the back in the woods. This is where I plan on taking my Jeep to shake it down in the coming months.

There's also a little country store there that belongs to the family for your snacking needs, unfortuneately you'd have to pay, I don't have that much clout.

Check it out:

http://www.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=19344+Edwards+Shop+Rd,+Lignum,+Va&ie=UTF8&om=1&z=11&ll=38.477782,-77.79007&spn=0.239204,0.671539&iwloc=addr

Plenty of space for everybody and their Jeep. An option for you.

Blair

[blthomas]

Thanks for the inclusion Dave.

I would take any type of information wether it be polished or not, a great resource for me to learn from.

You guys are a wealth of knowledge, whatever you come up with should be well worth it.

I'm looking forward to it anyhow.

Blair

[lostone]

If you guys want to consider a alternate place, we have some land in the family in Northern Culpeper County.

It's maybe 10 or 15 minutes from Remington off Rte. 29, about 5 minutes from the Faquier County line.....

Blair

That would work for me. It would mean I would only have to tow it 25 miles or so.

[blthomas]

If you guys want to consider a alternate place, we have some land in the family in Northern Culpeper County.

It's maybe 10 or 15 minutes from Remington off Rte. 29, about 5 minutes from the Faquier County line.....

Blair

That would work for me. It would mean I would only have to tow it 25 miles or so.
Hope I didn't step on toes there. I was looking at the post and it looked like some were looking for a more central location.

I was thinking maybe it would be a bit closer than your joint.

Although, if it was held at your house, I could load the CJ on my trailer, and you have a 220v welder right? And a torch? And a press.... and tools.......... :lol:

[Fifthpro]

As a follow up on this thread; do not forget the 101 Recovery Class will be a topic to be discussed at the next meeting:

Wed night Feb 21st For Club members and people who would like to see what the Club is all about. The location of the meeting will be Falls Church High School in the Automotive Shop at the far back left corner of the School. There is plenty of parking.

Meeting time will be 7:00 pm
Address
7521 JagaurTrail
Falls Church, Va 20164

Come on out and take part!

Cheers! Fifth

[JeepinSoldier]

If you guys want to consider a alternate place, we have some land in the family in Northern Culpeper County.

It's maybe 10 or 15 minutes from Remington off Rte. 29, about 5 minutes from the Faquier County line.

A couple open fields, woods, a creek, some grade breaks, couple small hills in the back in the woods. This is where I plan on taking my Jeep to shake it down in the coming months.

There's also a little country store there that belongs to the family for your snacking needs, unfortuneately you'd have to pay, I don't have that much clout.

Check it out:

http://www.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=19344+Edwards+Shop+Rd,+Lignum,+Va&ie=UTF8&om=1&z=11&ll=38.477782,-77.79007&spn=0.239204,0.671539&iwloc=addr

Plenty of space for everybody and their Jeep. An option for you.

Blair

We still have not settled on a location for this class and it is supposed to be at the end of the month. Blair has made this gracious offer and I propose that we take him up on it. Waiting until the last minute to settle on a location is never a good thing. Blair has said that he needs his families permission first.

JeepinSoldier proposes that we accept Blair's offer of a location to host the recovery class and ask his family for permission.

All in favor say aye.

All against say nay.

[Fifthpro]

AYE

[elevatorguy]

AYE

[Truck]

third aye..

Truck

[ToBlave]

Aye

Better to have permission and pull out if we have a better spot fall in our laps than to wait the last minute and end up doing this in the parking lot at the mall.

[blthomas]

Just saw this. I'll slide by and chat up the elders and see what the answer is.

I don't forsee a problem.

Mostly a reasurance of lack of field damage.

I'll do my best to get in touch with them tonight or tomorrow.

Blair

EDIT: One thing I'd like to put out, could a waiver possibly be considered to protect my Uncle (primary land owner), and the small store that he runs on the property God forbid something were to happen?

[JeepinSoldier]

Just saw this. I'll slide by and chat up the elders and see what the answer is.

I don't forsee a problem.

Mostly a reasurance of lack of field damage.

I'll do my best to get in touch with them tonight or tomorrow.

Blair

EDIT: One thing I'd like to put out, could a waiver possibly be considered to protect my Uncle (primary land owner), and the small store that he runs on the property God forbid something were to happen?

Blair,

Thanks for asking for us. I think a liability waiver is a good idea, we already have them to protect the club.

[ToBlave]

EDIT: One thing I'd like to put out, could a waiver possibly be considered to protect my Uncle (primary land owner), and the small store that he runs on the property God forbid something were to happen?

Done, there will be language to clarify that your Uncle is not receiving financial profit, is not organizing this event and in reality falls under the Good Samaritan laws for donating the use of land for this event. In Virginia, if you allow free recreation on your land then your liability for personal injury is waved. This law partially came about from protecting land owners from injury claims by hunters on private land and has been extended to other recreation uses like mountain biking, hiking, fishing, etc.

[blthomas]

That's some good info to know.

I'm going by this evening after work to chat him up in person.

Anyone have a guesstimate of headcount?

Just for info to pass to him when I ask.

Thanks
Blair

[JeepinSoldier]

That's some good info to know.

I'm going by this evening after work to chat him up in person.

Anyone have a guesstimate of headcount?

Just for info to pass to him when I ask.

Thanks
Blair

Hard to know how many people will attend. A guess would be 15 - 40. Depends on how many commit and show up. I think people are waiting to commit until they find out how far they have to drive.

[blthomas]

I had planned on throwing a number out there. If he asks.

Was guessing a bunch.

We shall see.

[blthomas]

Just got home, no worries, the land is yours to use.

[Fifthpro]

Excellent Blthomas! Do you have an address to the property so I can do some route planning info to help JeepinSolider out. The addy & crossroads so I can compare what I am seeing.

Cheers! and Thanks for the efforts!!!!
Fifthpro

[blthomas]

Excellent Blthomas! Do you have an address to the property so I can do some route planning info to help JeepinSolider out. The addy & crossroads so I can compare what I am seeing.

Cheers! and Thanks for the efforts!!!!
Fifthpro


19344 Edwards Shop Rd, Elkwood, VA 22718

No major crossroads nearby that I can think of.

I don't know if it would show up on your guys GPS, but there is a gravel road right close that is called Milam Ridge Road IIRC. Shows up on the paper maps.

No problem.

Blair

[Truck]

Awesome Blair, thanks for helping out here. We appreciate it.

Truck

[Pacifier]

Elkwood, VA..... Geezzz.... where is this place?

[blthomas]

It's real close to your new digs brudda.

Prolly, half hour? Maybe less. About 18 - 20 miles doing rough Google Map from Warrenton to Elkwood, no zips or street addy's.

[Pacifier]

In that case I'm in....

[Fifthpro]

Excellent Blthomas! Do you have an address to the property so I can do some route planning info to help JeepinSolider out. The addy & crossroads so I can compare what I am seeing.

Cheers! and Thanks for the efforts!!!!
Fifthpro


19344 Edwards Shop Rd, Elkwood, VA 22718

No major crossroads nearby that I can think of.

I don't know if it would show up on your guys GPS, but there is a gravel road right close that is called Milam Ridge Road IIRC. Shows up on the paper maps.

No problem.

Blair

Hey Bro, does this look like the right spot? :mrgreen:
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h245/Tomahawk_Jeep/Recovery101Locationcopy.jpg

[blthomas]

That's it!!!

Fields to the left, right, rear of the house and store.

All else is woods. Nothing huge, but big enough for your class hopefully.


To the right of your highlight, under the "E" in Edwards Shop Road is where we used to live.

God I miss that little piece of heaven. :cry:

I love that whole area down there, its close to the river.

[Fifthpro]

Thanks for the feedback Blthomas! Route plan to follow!!

Cheers!
Fifth

[JeepinSoldier]

Due to some key members not being able to make the 101 on the posted date of Mar 31st, we are looking at rescheduling the class to Apr 21st.

Blair, is this OK with you from the location standpoint?

[blthomas]

No worries, should not be a problem.