N Korea Files Missle

[fryed_1]

So news says they fired the long-range missile on a test run but it "failed"...

Ideas on why it failed?


My opinion is that the US defense systems did it's job, but ahead of time. They blew the thing back to NK before it could become a threat to us.

I know those systems aren't supposed to be in place in full force yet, but seems to me they might have done their job. North Koreans aren't stupid and I'm pretty sure they would have gotten the tiny tidbits of launching a long-range missile down by now, so why'd it fail?


Discuss?

[blthomas]

I heard about this yesterday while watching the fireworks.

I was told five missles were launched in all, one being the ICBM.

Think it went something like 35 miles and went kaput. Pretty serious gesture IMHO.

Is China a backer of the NK program like Iran is thought to be?

I also heard during the same conversation from a separate source they (NK) is working a EMP weapon, that can be detonated above the atmoshpere and would cripple our electrical infrastructure.

How does that work and how serious a threat is that?

Can you imagine if all electrical was FUBAR?

[96_Busted_XJ]

So news says they fired the long-range missile on a test run but it "failed"...

Ideas on why it failed?


My opinion is that the US defense systems did it's job, but ahead of time. They blew the thing back to NK before it could become a threat to us.

I know those systems aren't supposed to be in place in full force yet, but seems to me they might have done their job. North Koreans aren't stupid and I'm pretty sure they would have gotten the tiny tidbits of launching a long-range missile down by now, so why'd it fail?


Discuss?


Negative there Ghost rider. If we would of shot it down Northcom/ Norad would of made the call and it would of been over or by alaska by the time we shot it down.

I was in the Event conference it failed on it own. The pictures from the IR sat looks as if the liquid fuel tank was conpromiced. It spun out and the solid fuel blew midway into gettign through atmosphere.

We have certain things in place to defend. The only issue is the only a few people that can authorize the shoot down. You have to get a hold of them in a secure conference and get clearance within a 25 minutes window of launch. What we shoot dempends on ballistics alone no explosive. It has to hit its target (ICBM) in the outer most atmospheric flight (to get enough speed and should demolish the BM on impact) or else it will just redirect or bump it the the Nuc will still be hot. Can you say NuDet over Canada. They wouldn't be happy.

Basically there tecnology as far as rocket propellant sucks ass.
They need to stick with scuds.

Also most all big or major command centers are hemp (high alt elec magnetic pulse) protected called steel rooms. In the event of a suspected hemp or nudet they would run into the rooms and shut the steel door. They can try all they want. We have redunant to the redundant systems. They can try all they want are comms will be up. I won't talk about it for OPSEC reasons but google Cheyenne Mountain Complex thats are Nuc proof command facility. I have been there its bad ass !! Everything is on springs.

[2clean]

if they think of it... we have already thought of it as far as weapons. Besides if they had a weapon.. they wouldnt hold it a secret. They are well know for talking to much about what they have lol. We dont need intelligence to know what kind of weapons they have. They try to make one and launch it.. Its like saying... hey look what i have!

[Stowe63]

They tested thier nuke... 02TJ... can you send me some nice chop sticks.

[MarineDawg]

96 Busted XJ

You already said to much. No need to worry about OPSEC now.

[02tj]

96 Busted XJ

You already said to much. No need to worry about OPSEC now.

lol.....X2 there buddy!

[Stowe63]

When we lived in NE we've run across a few intresting things. :)

[ToBlave]

I have eyed buying an Atlas F silo for several years. There are hardened communication vaults for sale also.

[henri]

So news says they fired the long-range missile on a test run but it "failed"...

Ideas on why it failed?




Uhh lets see...cause it's a north korean missle that's why it failed...just like everything else in their country. i'm surprised it didn't fall in their heads while trying to launch it :lol:

[Jagged73]

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I also heard during the same conversation from a separate source they (NK) is working a EMP weapon, that can be detonated above the atmoshpere and would cripple our electrical infrastructure.

How does that work and how serious a threat is that?

Can you imagine if all electrical was FUBAR?

Who ever was feeding you this BS was full of it themselves.

NK is just now at the point of being able to detonate a tiny nuclear weapon. The technology needed to deploy an EMP weapon which would be triggered above the atmosphere is very well beyond their capacity right now.

As far as EMP weapons go, you have more to worry about from the Nuc's. When a nuc goes off you get the explosive demolition and the little cherry on top is the EMP blast. EMP blast's do have a blast radius and are not self sustaining. That is to say that if a huge EMP blast goes off in Central California its not going to travel all over the US knocking out all of the elecrical systems and subsystems. The EMP blast is proportional to the energy used to produce it. An EMP weapon that could do any sizeable damage would require so much energy that you might as well just be dropping a huge nuc.

The ruskies were viewed as quite behind the times during the cold war because all of their "modern" fighter aircraft all still had vacuum tubes instead of circuit boards. What the pundits failed to realize is that in the midst of an all out nuclear war with EMPs going off with every nuclear blast US aircraft would be falling out of the sky because their circuit boards are susceptable to EMP blast where as vacuum tubes are not.

[Stowe63]

Which also means.... YJ's will still be able to go into 4wd and TJ's wont. :)

[Pacifier]

I assume this goes for YJ's that run... :)