1989 Comanche (Short Bed)

[Pacifier]

I just picked up this little guy yesterday. It seems to be in good shape with minor dents and no rust what so ever. It has a 4.0, 2WD (will convert to 4WD), and has a Dana 44 rear. The plan is to upgrade the look and lift it about 3.5" with 33" tires.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0121.jpg

Drove 310 miles round trip to pick it up, it was worth it.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0122.jpg


Let the fun begin.

[JMUJEEP]

are you just going to do the body upgrade or are you going to try and do the full 2000 interior, exterior, drive line, etc like Dave and I did?

If you just do the body and you find a totaled 2000s XJ Dave is looking for a complete wiring harness so we can reconnect the abs sensors in the rear

[NYY_XJ]

Looks good D.

Yeah, what Will said.. If you have an computer wiring harness from a 2000 XJ I could use it!

Also, what kind of shape is the rear bumper in.. If you are planning on switching that out for something different and its in good shape, don't damage it further... people are always looking for those on comancheclub.com

[blthomas]

There is a running driving 4wd 4.0 in PA for a grand. It's a AW4 though. Not sure if that matters.

[NYY_XJ]

There is a running driving 4wd 4.0 in PA for a grand. It's a AW4 though. Not sure if that matters.

if you are going to travel for it.. travel south.. get as far away from PA and their crappy winter road treatments as possible unless you want to start with a rusted out MJ

[ltdanyj]

Damnit why am I too tall for an MJ....

[H2_RECOVERY]

Damnit why am I too tall for an MJ....

You and I both Kid! Plus we are Family men!:grouphug:

[blthomas]

@Dave, see my sig bro. :laugh: :first:

[Pacifier]

Not a good sig.... Been there done that. I have a Zuk/Yota :boink:

[Pacifier]

After staring at the MJ for a while, I'm rethinking my plan. I may just replace any damaged parts and just restore this little guy. It's just too nice to change it. We will see....:sleep:

[blthomas]

I think a restored mild 4x4 would be just as cool as a lifted wheeler.

[Pacifier]

I think a restored mild 4x4 would be just as cool as a lifted wheeler.
I agree.....

[YJSos]

At least make it a 4wd then make it a road queen like your XJ

[Pacifier]

At least make it a 4wd then make it a road queen like your XJ
Converting it to a 4x4 is the main reason why I got it. This will definitely be done.

I'm following your foot steps, you know YJ :)

[PA Highlander]

Looks like a nice project D! Hopefully it doesn't spend as much time under construction as the Zuke. MJ's are nice, had a 4cyl long bed at one point.

[YJSos]

I'm following your foot steps, you know YJ :)

Dont follow my footsteps im sure you wanna drive it one day......

[blthomas]

http://novajeepers.net/index.php?topic=5875.0

Auto trans and tcase from a XJ $600

[Pacifier]

Thanks Blair, but I already have one (tranny & tcase) :tape2:

[Pacifier]

I finally got a chance to pull it in the garage for a quick overview.

This is the only damage I found on the vehicle.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0125.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0123.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0126.jpg

Fixed the fender last night and will take care of the front today. I also got it registered and insured, the new license plate will read ITSAJP......

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0129.jpg

[NYY_XJ]

looks good.. and look at that new fender......

Found this today..

http://nates4x4.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=41&products_id=98

[YJSos]

What color are you gonna paint it?

[Pacifier]

I got the front almost all done, ordering new lights, front and rear bumpers next.

I'm thinking either silver and black, urban cammo, or military green. What do you think?

[blthomas]

No camo. I'd do all black. Everything, rims, bumpers, do it all. A light tint on the windows.

Then I'd find some smoke lens and run colored bulbs.

A home built Black Ops rig.

[Pacifier]

I like that idea.... I'll probably use black bed liner instead of paint however.

[Pacifier]

Tadaaaa...! :wink:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0131.jpg

[JMUJEEP]

I like that idea.... I'll probably use black bed liner instead of paint however.

you're not going to bed line the body of the truck are you?

[Urbie]

I'm thinking either silver and black, urban camo, or military green. What do you think?

i like the sound of that...

[YJSos]

I like Blairs idea about blacking it out and I know where to get you the deal on tint.

[Pacifier]

That reminds me, we should give him a call since he still needs to tint Toms wife's car from the last time.

[NYY_XJ]

I like Blairs idea about blacking it out and I know where to get you the deal on tint.


i've been wanting to tint my GTI.. know someone that does good work for a low price?

[Pacifier]

Today was a good productive day. I'll try to finish the entire front tomorrow and then the roof later on during the week. Black and silver it is.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0140.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0145.jpg

[Flexxj90]

Today was a good productive day. I'll try to finish the entire front tomorrow and then the roof later on during the week. Black and silver it is.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0140.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0145.jpg
do you know if the newer doors from 4 door XJs( sans wing windows) will fit?

[Pacifier]

Yes, they'll fit just as long as it's a four door XJ.

[Flexxj90]

Yes, they'll fit just as long as it's a four door XJ.
I just tossed a set too, you could get rid of those "truck" mirrors and get the flush ones

[Pacifier]

The plan is to keep these doors, remove and patch the current holes and relocate a new set of mirrors from the junk yard on the new location. :first:

[YJSos]

i've been wanting to tint my GTI.. know someone that does good work for a low price?

Yes he does really good work for a very fair price. Looks like I might have to plan a tint party at Diegos :boink:

[HelpMyZ]

Hey Diego, when you convert it to 4WD, I know where a set of for 3/4 ton axles that are about as close to bolt in as possible for ya.... front is setup for a tj/etc, rear is setup for leafs, LOTS of extra parts, clayton longarm kit for the front, new brakes, etc etc... I'm sure you've got some stuff to trade too... :boink:


(BTW: I hear you've got some jeep wheels/tires I may be interested in :a_cool: )

[NYY_XJ]

Looking good D... What parts are going to be silver?

[Pacifier]

Another long and productive day.

The front is all done, a second coat will follow in a week or so.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0146.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0147.jpg

I also got a chance to do the tail gate.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0151.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0152.jpg

[NYY_XJ]

Tailgate looks good but that bumper needs to go haha... Also, if you want stickers for the tailgate this guy has good stuff, got mine from him


http://www.jeepsticker.com/

[Pacifier]

The bumper is made out of wood... :pound: Yes, it will definitely come out.

[Scrambler84]

Wow Wood? thats redneck shit for sure

[NYY_XJ]

The bumper is made out of wood... :pound: Yes, it will definitely come out.

wait wait wait.. seriously? bahahahahaha

[cococj]

That looks like a stiff piece of wood!!!

[Pacifier]

I got a chance to install the new mirrors and paint the inner door panels today.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0155.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0156.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0157.jpg

[Pacifier]

Today I was able to finish the entire front of the MJ. Here are some pics of the progress. Once I take out the bed I'll be able to paint the small area on the back of the MJ. The bed is next after I fix some of the dents.


http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0158.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0159.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0162.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0161.jpg

[Pacifier]

The fun continues.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0165.jpg


http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0168.jpg


http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0166.jpg


http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0167.jpg

[NYY_XJ]

What the hell bumper is that? Looks small enough to be off of the Zuk...

[Pacifier]

What the hell bumper is that? Looks small enough to be off of the Zuk...

That's the bumper that was underneath the wood bumper. :pound: it will have to do until I buy steel and make my own bumpers and rock rails.

[Pacifier]

The exterior and under carriage are fully bed lined and under coated. The inside of the bed is next followed by the cab.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0174.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0175.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0176.jpg

[NYY_XJ]

is that silver? You should paint the grill insert silver too.. just the insert, not the full front clip.

[Pacifier]

is that silver? You should paint the grill insert silver too.. just the insert, not the full front clip.


That will be the finishing touch.:whoo:

[Pacifier]

One of the reasons I got the MJ so cheap is because the previous owner could not figure out why the engine was overheating. He replaced the radiator, water pump, and thermostat to no avail. After discussing this with the gift, he suggested swapping the cooling system from a close to an open style system. That took place today and now the engine is running at a cool temperature. :first: I drove the MJ for at least 20 miles (highway / town) and I did not have any issues. It seems like the problem has been resolved once again thanks to the gift.

[blthomas]

For the love of God can you do something about the rims and tires soon? Man those are ugly.

Rest of truck looks good. :usa:

[JMUJEEP]

For the love of God can you do something about the rims and tires soon? Man those are ugly.

Rest of truck looks good. :usa:

Dave has a set of these, already painted black, for sale... http://www.finishlinewheels.com/JEEP/CHEROKEE/1991/A-09030U10/

[NYY_XJ]

Dave has a set of these, already painted black, for sale... http://www.finishlinewheels.com/JEEP/CHEROKEE/1991/A-09030U10/


They are similar to those wheels.. but would definitely be looking to sell them.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1413656/mj/painted/DSC_0002%20%28Small%29.JPG

[Pacifier]

I sold those to you, remember? :pound: keep them.... I'm going with flat black steelies.

[H2_RECOVERY]

Now this trading is pretty darn funny! :grouphug:

[JMUJEEP]

I sold those to you, remember? :pound: keep them.... I'm going with flat black steelies.


i was hoping you wouldn't remember :tape2:

[Pacifier]

Just got done changing the oil, Mobil 1 baby! I also drove her for another 20 miles or so before I commit to my 34 mile commute to work one of these days. I plan to start building the front axle next as well as installing a matching set of 4.10 gears.

[Pacifier]

As of Sunday 12/4/11, this is what the MJ currently looks like. :wink:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/385112_2808992230050_1416049036_33193855_851110393 _n.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/383825_2808999710237_1416049036_33193858_56180445_ n.jpg

[JMUJEEP]

the MJ is looking good... maybe it's just a bad camera angle but I think you need to make that silver stripe a little thicker, it almost looks like the black is bleeding thru it. maybe make the silver closer to the chrome around the windshield and above the doors to help blend that color with the rest of the jeep... just a thought

[Pacifier]

List of replaced parts so far.
Air Filter
Oil Filter
Oil change
Fuel Filter
Spark Plugs
Distributor Cap
Rotor Button
Spark Plug Wires
New Battery Cables
Crankshaft position sensor
Fuel pressure regulator
Vacuum lines
Engine plugs / Oil cap
Fuel pump
Passenger fender
Entire front grill, lights, and light housings
Replaced entire cooling system from close to open
Transmission fluid has been replaced
Master brake cylinder
Replaced front dummy axle with a Dana 30 HP.

[Pacifier]

The fuel tank has been dropped and the pump has been removed. The more I tear into the MJ the more red neck fixes I find.... ARG...! :mmph: I will be replacing the fuel pump tomorrow and touching up the tank since it's still in good shape.

[Pacifier]

Success....! The Jeep fired right up after the fuel pump replacement.:first:

[Scrambler84]

what kinda fix do the fuel pump have?

[Pacifier]

what kinda fix do the fuel pump have?

Fuel pressure... Not enough and it won't go boom. :pound: :boink:

[H2_RECOVERY]

Sounds like my Phone Tech service was correct again!

[Pacifier]

Sounds like my Phone Tech service was correct again!

That's why you're the GIFT! :first:

[Pacifier]

Here are some of the pictures from yesterday.

New fuel pump installed and gas tank bed lined

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0199.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0200.jpg

Drove the Comanche 50 miles today and had no issues what so ever.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0201.jpg

[H2_RECOVERY]

D who's LJ is that?

[Frankpapa]

Ha, you did bed-liner the whole tank! Did you clean it all first like I predicted? :pound:

[NYY_XJ]

looking really good D.. hows the interior looking, i see a lot of work on the exterior but no inside pictures hmmm...

Also, you're missing wheels, at the very least you need to clean up those wagon wheels and shoot them black.

[Pacifier]

Mike, The LJ belongs to Pete.

Frank, I did clean and lined the entire tank. It was out anyway, so why not do it right the first time.

Dave, My goal is to focus on the outside / under carriage of the vehicle first, drive train next, and finally the interior. The rear bumper will be installed before the end of the year. :wink: One more thing! the rims were painted black yesterday. :caked:

[NYY_XJ]

One more thing! the rims were painted black yesterday. :caked:

pictures or it didn't happen, remember? i thought that was the moto of the club.

[Pacifier]

I'll get some updated pictures tomorrow. I forgot to mention that I drove the MJ to work today, 70 miles round trip. :crazy:

[Bnizzle]

Does your insurance have free towing ?:pound:
:bolt:

[Pacifier]

Does your insurance have free towing ?:pound:
:bolt:. Free towing for the Land Rover and Cherokee only. :wink: the other two vehicles get the abandonment treatment... :pound:

[Frankpapa]

. Free towing for the Land Rover and Cherokee only. :wink: the other two vehicles get the abandonment treatment... :pound:

You do understand, Yeti will now follow you anywhere? :hippie:

[Pacifier]

Dave, Here you go...

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0202.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0203.jpg

[Bnizzle]

is that the Ebrake behind that tire?

[Pacifier]

is that the Ebrake behind that tire?

The Ebrake works perfectly fine, that's just an added bonus until I get to the brakes themselves. :croc:

[NYY_XJ]

looking pretty good, where are your jeep center caps for those wheels?

[Pacifier]

The new axle has been installed as well as a new brake master cylinder. The progress continues. :behindsofa:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0208.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0211.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0214.jpg

[YJSos]

Sweet!!!!

[Pacifier]

Test fitting the newly fabricated bumper before welding all the tabs together. :playball:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/382716_2916669441913_1416049036_33238029_128587328 9_n.jpg

[NYY_XJ]

Test fitting the newly fabricated bumper before welding all the tabs together. :playball:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/382716_2916669441913_1416049036_33238029_128587328 9_n.jpg

That bumper looks great! 2" receiver? Where did you get it? If you made it, you should probably throw a couple more together and post it on comancheclub.com i bet you could sell them easy.

[Bnizzle]

You make that bad boy?

[H2_RECOVERY]

Dang boy your rolling fast.:behindsofa:

[JMUJEEP]

nice looking bumper D... who made it?

[YJSos]

You need to get the most redneck bumpersticker for that bad boy

[Pacifier]

You need to get the most redneck bumpersticker for that bad boy

I LOVE MOONSHINE! & REDNECK DELIGHT! :shocked:

That's a one of a Kind bumper that will not be marketed for anyone other than me. Yes, it is a 2" receiver. :amen:

[NYY_XJ]

That's a one of a Kind bumper that will not be marketed for anyone other than me. Yes, it is a 2" receiver. :amen:

What if I wanted one for my MJ???

[blthomas]

I'll make ya one Dave. Just needs to wait a bit, got so much going on, I need another pair of hands right now.

:crazy: :mmph: :thumb:

[Pacifier]

The front bumper is next followed by some rockers.:eyebrows:

Blair will hook you up Will:fish:

[Frankpapa]

I LOVE MOONSHINE! & REDNECK DELIGHT! :shocked:

That's the best you can do for a redneck bumper sticker?

[Pacifier]

That's the best you can do for a redneck bumper sticker?

Yep! Do you have anything better?

RECTUM It's whut I dun ta ma other 2 cars. :wink:

How is that?

[Frankpapa]

:painkiller:Yep! Do you have anything better?

RECTUM It's whut I dun ta ma other 2 cars. :wink:

How is that?

Guess you didn't come from the redneck region of Spain. :fencing:

[Bnizzle]

LOL...and with the sword fighters..lol....

[Pacifier]

Here is a side view.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0216.jpg

[NYY_XJ]

Rockers, eh? I'm in no real rush for a rear bumper.. but might be interested in some rockers, maybe i'll join you when you start making yours.

[Pacifier]

Rockers, eh? I'm in no real rush for a rear bumper.. but might be interested in some rockers, maybe i'll join you when you start making yours.


I hear this all the time and you still haven't joined us for any of the wrenching parties at the DDC shop. :boxing: All the ideas and designs come up during those events. :juggle:

[NYY_XJ]

I hear this all the time and you still haven't joined us for any of the wrenching parties at the DDC shop. :boxing: All the ideas and designs come up during those events. :juggle:

I've only heard of 2 such wrenching parties and both weekends were a bust for me.. i spent this past one driving 4 hours to Williamsport pa, spending 3 or 4 hours there and driving 4 hours home.. would have much rather been wrenching. oh and the MJ doesn't start still :Cry:

[Pacifier]

Mine had the same problem until I replaced a few parts. Now it fires right up. :eyebrows:

[NYY_XJ]

I've seen a few people do this to their tail lights.. if its done correctly it looks pretty good, might look pretty good on your MJ with the color you've got.. they have outlined the lights with black.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i241/ridinghi/IMAG0147.jpg

[Pacifier]

I was actually planning to do that this weekend at the same time that I install the rear bumper. LOL!

[NYY_XJ]

weekend? Put the laptop on the work bench with the sound up and listen for emails.. get on it D! :rockon:

[Pacifier]

The previous owner installed an annoying Cherry bomb, so it had to go. I decided to replace the entire exhaust system to include the CAT. Here are a few parts.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0222.jpg

[Bnizzle]

every time you replace a cheery bomb...a baby kitten dies!!

How could you!

[Pacifier]

every time you replace a cheery bomb...a baby kitten dies!!

How could you!


Sweet! I don't like cats anyway. :target:

[YJSos]

I dont think a cherry bomb would sound very good on a 4.0

[Pacifier]

Finally finished welding the bracing and tow hitch / recovery points.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0223.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0229.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0227.jpg

[Pacifier]

The rear bumper has been permanently installed.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/MJbumpercom.jpg

The exhaust system will be replaced tomorrow.

Old

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0232.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0233.jpg

New

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0234.jpg

[YJSos]

Very nice!!

[NYY_XJ]

nice work nice work.. still jealous of that bumper.. if i ever screw my stock on up i will be stealing yours... i mean coming to you for advice on how to build one.. yeah... thats it... :suspicious:

Did you make a new set of mounting brackets, or did you use the ones that were already on your "bumper" (i use quote because lets face it, it was as block of wood..)

[ThinkMud]

Looks awesome D!

[Pacifier]

Here are the mounting brackets. Four holes attach to the frame and four holes attach to the bumper. :clap2:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0230.jpg

[NYY_XJ]

did you cut those your self or those the ones that came with the truck? I am looking for a 2nd set so i can use them with the hitch I have.. if you cut them your self, what metal did you use?

[Pacifier]

The brackets are made out of 1/4" steel.

[NYY_XJ]

Thanks D... whats on the schedule for this weekend? you get your 4x4 swap squared away?

[Pacifier]

The AW4 conversion is going to be too much of a pain in the ass. I'm looking for an AX15 or NV3550 in order for the swap to be straight forward. By staying with a manual configuration I can avoid messing with the computer module and wiring.

[Pacifier]

New exhaust has been installed. I decided to chop it up and only extend the pipe to the front of the rear tire.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0245.jpg


http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0243.jpg

[NYY_XJ]

You should put the cherry bomb on the Zuk... Haha

[Pacifier]

You're welcome to it if you want it. :a_eek:

[HelpMyZ]

hey diego, what year AW4 is that? I just finished swapping an AW4 into my TJ.. I can't imagine it being too difficult to do the same for the mj.

[Pacifier]

It came out of a 96 XJ. In order to make it work with my 89, tons of electrical work will need to be done to include adding / matting computer modules and splicing into wiring harnesses. The MJ guys as well as some other mechanics that I have talked to don't recommend the swap since it's time consuming, it could get expensive, and the end result is not guaranteed.

[HelpMyZ]

gotcha. mine was from a 98ish I think.. I guess there were some differences between the pre/post 1998. I think I have a computer and pigtail for a pre-98 version.. if you wanna get rid of it lemme know.

[Pacifier]

I started fabricating a little something for my bed in order to cover up the dents.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0246.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0247.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0252.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0255-1.jpg

[Pacifier]

Can anyone tell what this is by looking at the picture? It supposedly came from a 1993 Cherokee?

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/100MEDIA36IMAG0002.jpg

[lynskynbnd]

Asin AX15 and NV231

Can anyone tell what this is by looking at the picture? It supposedly came from a 1993 Cherokee?

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/100MEDIA36IMAG0002.jpg

[Pacifier]

Sweet.... The guy wants 350 for the set. I told him he can have my old winch and $100 instead and he went for it. :heh: I just hope it works now.

[NYY_XJ]

Another nice piece for the MJ... I thought rockers were next though...

[Pacifier]

Another nice piece for the MJ... I thought rockers were next though...


But, they are Daniel son. :bounce:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0254.jpg

[NYY_XJ]

But, they are Daniel son. :bounce:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0254.jpg



Best part of the picture.... The Zuk is being used as bike storage haha.

[Pacifier]

Best part of the picture.... The Zuk is being used as bike storage haha.

You see.... the Zuk does have a purpose after all. :dance:

Now get working on your junk before I catch up and smoke you with mine

[ltdanyj]

Asin AX15 and NV231

I agree on the trans.... not sure exactly which T-case that is, but the ID tag is still there....

[NYY_XJ]

You see.... the Zuk does have a purpose after all. :dance:

Not get working on your junk before I catch up and smoke you with mine.


I don't have a garage and if you missed it, it's not great wrenching outdoor weather haha

[Pacifier]

Sounds like a personal problem to me. :)

[Pacifier]

The bed rail armor has been installed.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0256.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0257.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0258.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0259.jpg

[ThinkMud]

looks good D!

[Pacifier]

I also went ahead and fixed the broken breather nipple from my Dana 44, drained and added some fresh fluids.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0262.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0261.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0260.jpg

[ThinkMud]

You are busy busy bee today!


all I did today was put together another AR lower....

[Pacifier]

You are busy busy bee today!


all I did today was put together another AR lower....


No time for guns lately, its all about the MJ until I'm done with it. Once she's done, I'll go back to the Zuk. :jaw:

[ThinkMud]

U got a front axle yet to do the 4x4 conversion? Someone is parting out a MJ on CL

[Pacifier]

U got a front axle yet to do the 4x4 conversion? Someone is parting out a MJ on CL


I swapped out the dummy axle for an HP 30 2 weeks ago. :)

Thanks for looking out.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0211.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0214.jpg

[ThinkMud]

I can't keep up with all your mods!

[NYY_XJ]

Keep up the good work, looks awesome!

[Pacifier]

I decided to replace the starter over the weekend, that eliminated the weird noises during start up. :pound:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0266.jpg

I also started working on my rockers.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0263.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0265.jpg

[NYY_XJ]

all the exterior parts look good.. but haven't seen any interior pictures.. whats up with that?

[Pacifier]

all the exterior parts look good.. but haven't seen any interior pictures.. whats up with that?


You won't see any until I'm done armoring, fixing any leaks, and converting it to a 4x4. The interior is the easy part that should only take me a day to do:croc:

[NYY_XJ]

You won't see any until I'm done armoring, fixing any leaks, and converting it to a 4x4. The interior is the easy part that should only take me a day to do:croc:

keeping it stock, just cleaning it up?

[Pacifier]

keeping it stock, just cleaning it up?

Probably not.... I really haven't put any thought into the interior other than making it black to match the exterior.

[H2_RECOVERY]

I saw the rear Bumper and it look really nice D!
:washing:

[Pacifier]

I saw the rear Bumper and it look really nice D!
:washing:

This coming from the gift means a lot to me. :becky::becky:

I was just glad not to get pulled over after pulling that trailer without lights
:lever:

[H2_RECOVERY]

You could of pulled the racial profile card on them! Wait that might be why you were not stopped! :llama:

[Pacifier]

I only saw two troopers this morning on my way in and both were on the other side of the highway. :whoo:

[Pacifier]

The new clutch kit, master, slave cylinders have arrived. All I need now is the new shifter since the one from the BA 10/5 will not work with the AX 15. Does anyone have one for sale?

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/comclutch.jpg

[lynskynbnd]

Not switching to an external slave?? :der:

I used my original '88 ba10 shifter on the replacement '98 ax15.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/404793_2801962942204_1652506235_2637885_478702492_ n.jpg

[Pacifier]

I'm coming to see you tomorrow for some pointers. :tongue: In regards to the external slave, worst case scenario is dropping this bad boy again in a few years. :eyebrows:

If I get lucky, I may even be able to drop an NV3550 and an NP 241


I'm also looking for a set of wheels and tires to replace my current ones for the time being. The wheel and tire package will be decided once I determine what size / type of lift I'm going to go with.

[MarineDawg]

D I'll give you my shitty 35 Baja Claws (ONE HAS NOT TOUCHED THE GROUND) and 15x10 5x5.5s. Only because I know you can hook me up with some beadlocks and tires. Or might trade for the genright cage tie ins. know it won't happen, but a girl can dream. Damn I need to stop posting after drinking.

[Pacifier]

Everything is possible.... :eyebrows: I can definitely hook you up with anything GenRight. Just let me know.

[ThinkMud]

Do it!!

[Pacifier]

Before .... REDNECK Style

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/IMAG0144.jpg



After: DiegosDeals.com Style

Now that is a nice A$$ :redface:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/MJ2012.jpg

[ThinkMud]

Impressive work D!

[YJSos]

fap fap fap fap fap.......

[Bnizzle]

Nice work man!

[Pacifier]

fap fap fap fap fap.......


Josh.... LMFAOWROTF :rofl: WOW! I have to admit... it was good :dance:

[YJSos]

HAHAHA it happens

[H2_RECOVERY]

It has come a long way in 4 weeks!

[JMUJEEP]

looking good man... can't wait to see the rockers on there too


It has come a long way in 4 weeks!

it definitely has but how many of those hours were billed to NJVC :pound:

[Pacifier]

looking good man... can't wait to see the rockers on there too.
it definitely has but how many of those hours were billed to NJVC :pound:

Is not my fault I have a kick ass job that allows me to put all my hours in 3.5 days and be off the rest of the week. :drum::usa2::madgrin:

[H2_RECOVERY]

your right and it's not my fault i have a job that gives me the month of July and August off! :first:

[Pacifier]

Haters.... What can we do Blondin? :)

[Pacifier]

For less than $100, I just finished fabricating my rockers (6 feet long). I also plan on tying them to the pinch seam for additional strength before finally painting them.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/photo1.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/photo3.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/photo2.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/photo5.jpg

[ThinkMud]

Where are you buying your metal from?

[Pacifier]

Where are you buying your metal from?


Here: http://www.diegosdeals.com/deals/showproduct.php/product/452/cat/304

:bolt:

[blthomas]

Here: http://www.diegosdeals.com/deals/showproduct.php/product/452/cat/304

:bolt:


Probably THE best machine shop I've ever been too. These guys can do just about anything....

[Pacifier]

Probably THE best machine shop I've ever been too. These guys can do just about anything....

Yep! I usually take all the measurements and have them cut it my way. All I have to do then is weld it together and make minor adjustments. :becky:

[ThinkMud]

Probably THE best machine shop I've ever been too. These guys can do just about anything....

That's good to know! I was just thinking 100 for all the metal for D's sliders was a freak'n steal! (pun intended). it would be almost double for it up here at Springfield!

I need to start calling them for prices. just have to make a trip down there to pick it up i guess, which would suck.

[Flexxj90]

That's good to know! I was just thinking 100 for all the metal for D's sliders was a freak'n steal! (pun intended). it would be almost double for it up here at Springfield!

I need to start calling them for prices. just have to make a trip down there to pick it up i guess, which would suck.
or you could slip BLair a squeeze to bring it up at a M&G

[ThinkMud]

Yep! I usually take all the measurements and have them cut it my way. All I have to do then is weld it together and make minor adjustments. :becky:

so they made those cuts for you plus the price of the steel for under $100?? that's crazy prices! Springfield charged me over 300 for two 6 foot 2x3s (3/16 thick) and four 2x2s (3/16thick) and that was a few years ago!

and so you know, a JK's sliders need to be 6 foot as well

[ThinkMud]

or you could slip BLair a squeeze to bring it up at a M&G

I hear Bliar likes those squeezes....:bathbaby: :bowl:

[Pacifier]

WOW! I Paid $30 for the cuts (min 1 hour labor), $50 for 12 feet of 2x 1.5 - 9/64, and $16 for 8 feet of 1/1/4 - 9.64 tubing. :drum:

[ThinkMud]

WOW! I Paid $30 for the cuts (min 1 hour labor), $50 for 12 feet of 2x 1.5 - 9/64, and $16 for 8 feet of 1/1/4 - 9.64 tubing. :drum:

9/64? isn't that a bit thin for rock rails? I've bent the crap out of 3/16s a few times already (on a JK).

[Pacifier]

9/64? isn't that a bit thin for rock rails? I've bent the crap out of 3/16s a few times already (on a JK).


Keep in mind that JK's and TJ's weight a lot more than XJ's and MJ's. The MJ is so light I can make it hop in dry pavement. :pound: SERIOUSLY!

A stock 4door JK Rubicon is 5700 lbs, you should be looking for at least 1/4" steel for rockers.

My MJ is around 3000 lbs and my XJ is about 3400 lbs modified.

[ThinkMud]

yeah that's true, plus the times I bent my 3/16 was a bad spotter that put my jeep in a bind, so it probably would have bent anything. that's the the spot i bent one my rims as well, and ripped my Irok off the rim ,haha... it was not a good day. on Crawl Daddy at RC (a red). So maybe that size would hold up on normal stuff. I know the stock rubi rails are only 1/8"

[blthomas]

When I built our 2x4 bumpers, I was into both bumpers, materials and their shop charge for under $150.

I know they are basic 2x4 3/16" wall, but they work.

They cut my tube, and then took the 1" stock I used for d-ring mounts, drilled the 3/4" diameter holes, cleaned up the edges, then cut to length all for $30.

Buying the d-ring mounts online was cheaper by the pair, but shipping kills a $20 part because they are so heavy.

This machine shop is way easier.

If you buy and pay for it Buck, I can accomdate a drop at your place.

As long as none of it is super long, my work van only has a 6' cargo area.

[Pacifier]

I got a chance to install one of the rockers on the MJ today. I'll try to finish it tomorrow and paint them before the end of the week. I guess I'll start on the front bumper next. :wacko:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/Rockers1.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/Rockers2.jpg

[NYY_XJ]

Nice D!!

[Pacifier]

Nice D!!

Thanks!

Dave, what did you do for your lift? I need to start thinking about that next.

[Flexxj90]

I got a chance to install one of the rockers on the MJ today. I'll try to finish it tomorrow and paint them before the end of the week. I guess I'll start on the front bumper next. :wacko:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/Rockers1.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/Rockers2.jpg
Why are they so low?? Why not put them tighter to the body?

[MUDDYNAT]

I got a chance to install one of the rockers on the MJ today. I'll try to finish it tomorrow and paint them before the end of the week. I guess I'll start on the front bumper next. :wacko:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/Rockers1.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/Rockers2.jpg

I agree with flexxj90 the way you have it now it looks like heavy duty side steps... but nice job dude!

[Pacifier]

They are actually parallel with the frame, they look lower because they stick out about 1.5" further than the ones you would find from a retailer. :nerd:

[JMUJEEP]

Thanks!

Dave, what did you do for your lift? I need to start thinking about that next.

If I remember correctly he replaced the springs in the rear and did an over axle conversation and has 6.5" front springs with 2" spacers

[NYY_XJ]

Yeah, I got a new pair of rear leaf springs and flipped it to spring over (my original springs were shot) then the front has 6.5 coils and 2" spacers, but the was really just to level it out more otherwise the front was way lower than the rear.

[michanecash]

that thing is starting to look bad ass

[Pacifier]

that thing is starting to look bad ass

Thanks, but I still have a long ways to go. :Cry:

[ThinkMud]

Thanks, but I still have a long ways to go. :Cry:

I think you need my winch on front, and my AR in the rear window LOL

[Pacifier]

I think you need my winch on front, and my AR in the rear window LOL


It would be nice, but first I need a bumper to mount it to. :deadhorse:

[ThinkMud]

I can't believe you haven't made one yet!

[NYY_XJ]

I can't believe you haven't made one yet!


i'm actually surprised you haven't either.. unless you are trying to leave the front end looking completely stock and hide the winch behind the bumper like the old factory setups were...

Oh and if you do make a bumper, make sure there are hi-lift jack points on it, something like this.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1413656/frontbumperMOD.JPG

(I would have put the picture in, but it wasn't letting me resize the damn picture)

[Pacifier]

i'm actually surprised you haven't either.. unless you are trying to leave the front end looking completely stock and hide the winch behind the bumper like the old factory setups were...

Oh and if you do make a bumper, make sure there are hi-lift jack points on it, something like this.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1413656/frontbumperMOD.JPG

(I would have put the picture in, but it wasn't letting me resize the damn picture)


That's a great idea! I'll probably start designing something this weekend and buying the metal sometime next week.

[ThinkMud]

as long as you have the D-ring mounts, you can just use a D-ring shackle with the hi-lift... no need for holes that will weaken your bumper. I've been using the shackles on bumpers for years.

[NYY_XJ]

we figured out the hard way that the hi-lift doesn't have anything to grab on my front bumper, so just keep it in mind while you're designing yours

[ThinkMud]

we figured out the hard way that the hi-lift doesn't have anything to grab on my front bumper, so just keep it in mind while you're designing yours

was that yours in the picture with the 2 shackle mounts? you can use a D-ring shackle in the shackle mount to use the hi-lift.

[JMUJEEP]

was that yours in the picture with the 2 shackle mounts? you can use a D-ring shackle in the shackle mount to use the hi-lift.

damn that would have been nice to know at the bottom of GW haha... I wonder if his hi-lift is actually tall enough to grab the d-rings... might need to invest it a taller jack

[ThinkMud]

damn that would have been nice to know at the bottom of GW haha... I wonder if his hi-lift is actually tall enough to grab the d-rings... might need to invest it a taller jack

They also make some accessories that could have helped.

http://www.hi-lift.com/accessories/index.html

I carry the Lift Mate (http://www.hi-lift.com/accessories/lift-mate.html)with me on the trails, it can be used on someone's tires, or wrapped around a bumper or something.

But those slots you made would make it not have to lift so high, so the slots are still a great idea.

[Pacifier]

Here is what I came up with for the license plate, the LED will be here on Friday.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/LICPL2.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/LICPL1.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/LICPL3.jpg

[NYY_XJ]

nice idea.. i like the flip down instead of putting the plate randomly screwed into the bumper. Might want to throw a piece of rubber on those bolts, or across the top of the plate so if you (or someone else) forgets to flip down the plate before the tailgate you don't scratch up the tailgate

[HelpMyZ]

hey, Diego, what are you doing with the stock 2wd front axle? Or did you already get rid of it? I need something to roll my TJ around on until I get the 60 in.

[YJSos]

I think it went to the scrap yard but he will have to tell you for sure

Thats lookin good vato. im still tryin to get in touch with Dave. His phone must be cut off or something

[Pacifier]

You are correct, senor Jose (Josh). The axle is gone! :eyebrows: Sorry, Brady.

[HelpMyZ]

Ah, no worries. I can figure something out with the engine hoist, a strap and the 4wheeler. [/hijack]

Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk

[Pacifier]

The temporary wheels (15) and tires (30) have been installed.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/30inchtires1.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/30inchtires2.jpg

[Pacifier]

The rockers are finally done.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/Rockers2-1.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/Rockers1-1.jpg

[lynskynbnd]

pinched and plated....

Looks like it'll fly!

=]

[Pacifier]

pinched and plated....

Looks like it'll fly!

=]


Not fast enough to lift off the ground. :plane: Maybe someday. :behindsofa:

[ThinkMud]

Not fast enough to lift off the ground. :plane: Maybe someday. :behindsofa:
:plane: hmmmm.... sounds like a good project!!

[Pacifier]

I scored a practically brand new set of MJ seats for $60

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/Seats2.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/Seats1.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/Seats4.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/Seats3.jpg

[Frankpapa]

Nice!

[NYY_XJ]

and the interior begins, well done

any chance you have a little left over metal to make a set of rear bumper brackets for me?

[ThinkMud]

Nice find D! You have motivated me to start building stuff too:rockon: I've been too lazy lately. You are a great inspiration brother, for real.
:usa2:

[JMUJEEP]

looking good D... one of these days i want to see it in person!

[Pacifier]

Dave... Come by the house sometime and I'll hook you up with the brackets.

The interior restoration has begun before dropping the tranny and converting it to 4WD.


At first glance I thought that I was going to have to weld new floor boards.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/DSCN1022.jpg

As luck would have it... the rust was only superficial....

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/DSCN1024.jpg

Fixed the problem with some rust inhibitor.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/DSCN1026.jpg

Put down a couple of thick layers of Herculiner.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/DSCN1029.jpg

[blthomas]

Looks better than new now. :first:

[YJSos]

Lookin good Vato!!!

[Pacifier]

Josh..... When are we getting our windows tinted?

[YJSos]

I couldnt tell ya, i think Daves phone is shut off or something. I need to get my Civic done also. I feel like Im on display without tinted windows.

[Pacifier]

I couldnt tell ya, i think Daves phone is shut off or something. I need to get my Civic done also. I feel like Im on display without tinted windows.


Same here... FISH BOWL! :lol:

[lynskynbnd]

Shiny floor!

[NYY_XJ]

nice work with the interior D.. you have definitely lucked out with the condition of the MJ thats for sure... :thumb:

I'll definite swing by some time, let me know when thought the next couple of weekends might be shot (traveling)

[Flexxj90]

Diego did you look under the heat/sound insulation? I found a lot of moisture and rust hides there

[Pacifier]

Diego did you look under the heat/sound insulation? I found a lot of moisture and rust hides there


I did... The area up front was all good.

[NYY_XJ]

Diego did you look under the heat/sound insulation? I found a lot of moisture and rust hides there

Good call... I forgot about that, my MJ had a terrible smell in that insulation layer.. gross.:pout:

[ltdanyj]

Truck is lookin' good dude!

[Pacifier]

The interior is mostly done... just waiting on a few parts that need to be replaced.


New roof liner has been installed

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/INT5.jpg

The interior is now mostly black instead of gray.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/INT2.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/INT4.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/INT3.jpg

[JMUJEEP]

looking good...

where did you get the new headliner?

[Pacifier]

looking good...

where did you get the new headliner?


I removed the old crap and installed a new fresh piece. I got the headliner cloth from Joann's Fabrics, total cost for the fabric and glue, $30 :madgrin:

[JMUJEEP]

I removed the old crap and installed a new fresh piece. I got the headliner cloth from Joann's Fabrics, total cost for the fabric and glue, $30 :madgrin:

ahhh the actual structure of dave's headliner was shot... i would have loved to just recover it

[lynskynbnd]

I bet that little MJ headliner was easier to do than the XJ headliner I did years ago!

Looks great!:thumb:

[NYY_XJ]

Looks awesome, you got some seat covers in mind for those old buckets? also, order/make a new shift knob that baby blue looking one has got to go. i vote for either an 8 Ball or a hand grenade shaped one.

[lynskynbnd]

Looks awesome, ........ also, order/make a new shift knob that baby blue looking one has got to go. i vote for either an 8 Ball or a hand grenade shaped one.

How about one of these?
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/316103_2489913341159_1652506235_2513035_14152289_n .jpg

[Pacifier]

That blue one is nice! The seats are in excellent shape, no tears, worn springs, stains, so I'm going to run them as they are for the time being. The goal is to get the MJ lifted this week before getting into the transmission swap next week, then gears, and finally the custom front bumper. :cheer2:

[NYY_XJ]

That blue one is nice! The seats are in excellent shape, no tears, worn springs, stains, so I'm going to run them as they are for the time being. The goal is to get the MJ lifted this week before getting into the transmission swap next week, then gears, and finally the custom front bumper. :cheer2:
I thought you were going for a black interior, those seats are clearly not black.

[Scrambler84]

hand grenades don't go well if you work on military base, freaky cop walks up and says "OMG he had his hand on the stick shift with a grenade in it so i shot em.

[Pacifier]

The project is called silver and black, that is exactly how the vehicle is going to be set up. Black interior / silver seats or black seats / silver interior.

[NYY_XJ]

You need a set of stickers for the tailgate.. really complete the project..

http://jeepsticker.com/mj.htm

You can get them in silver, i've got a set from him that are orange.. those will be going on before the auto show hits in may.

[blthomas]

http://www.flameball.com/HomePage.htm

http://www.flameball.com/Abstract/ad-0.htm <<<check this one out. :madgrin:

[Pacifier]

Those are sweet... I know what to order next :)

The jeep logo on the tailgate has been painted silver already, but I may consider getting other stickers from this guy.

[Pacifier]

I started working on my lift (front). I'm hoping to have the rear done before Sunday. :pray:

Before

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/Lift1.jpg

After

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/irkermit/89%20Comanche/Lift3.jpg