2012 Red Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon

[Scrambler84]

Starting over.
http://www.beltway4wd.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=24&pictureid=120

[Scrambler84]

Front bumper is off
http://www.beltway4wd.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=24&pictureid=121

Front Poison Spyder Bumper installed
http://www.beltway4wd.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=24&pictureid=122

Thinking about putting on my Dually-2x2-LED lights on tomorrow on the front tabs on the bumper. The are supposed to be crazy bright.
http://www.rigidindustries.com/Dually-2x2-LED-Lights-Set-of-two-p/twoduallys.htm

Also ordering the Teraflex exhaust spacers to keep the drive shaft from rubbing the exhaust so I can put on at 3.5 or 4.5 AEV lift like I before then slap the 35s back on again. Watch this video to understand what I mean. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKBlEpMaJC4&feature=youtu.be

Teraflex exhaust spacers link
http://www.teraflex.biz/jk-exhaust-spacer-kit-for-2012-driver-and-passenger.html

[Pacifier]

Very nice!

[ThinkMud]

I"ve had my axle drooped down as far as it can go to put my lift on, and again the other weekend to remove the front coils to weld on my c-gussets, and my drive shaft didn't hit the exhaust.

But I will keep an eye on it!

Also, I will say the front drive shaft angle looks really bad even on level ground right now.

[H2_RECOVERY]

Hey look it's rich and Jenn's new jeep!:boink:

Very nice ride Pat!

[Scrambler84]

Installed the winch today, I used liquid-tight plastic conduit to protect the winch cables from abrasion when I ran it under the grill and through the engine compartment, I sealed the end outside the engine compartment with RTV to keep the water out of the liquid-tight. The routing was a bit wierd and they have turned the battery 90 degrees making my + cable a bout 3 inches to short so it runs across battery for now. the routing at the bottom of the 1st pic the gray tubing nearest to fender. Took me about 5 mins this time to line up the bolts instead of the hour last time. Total time was about 2.5 hours to do everything.

Engine Compartment
http://www.beltway4wd.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=24&pictureid=124

Front of Jeep and engine compartment
http://www.beltway4wd.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=24&pictureid=123

Hood down complete
http://www.beltway4wd.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=24&pictureid=125

[Scrambler84]

My lower control arm skids came in today, my last Jeep's axle tube LCA mounts took a beating a number of times so with the new one I'm installing the 1/4 thick Skid Row LCA skids to protect them and keep the in good shape

Pick of the kids as I received them
http://www.beltway4wd.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=24&pictureid=126

and installed, a bit hard to see
http://www.beltway4wd.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=24&pictureid=127

I'll have to get a better picture tomorrow when its light out

[ThinkMud]

Nice Pat! I have them on mine as well! I'm going Skid Row Offroad for all my skids:first:

and super nice wiring man, I should have you redo my winch, haha

[Scrambler84]

I have a bit more of the liquid-tight stuff left, I that stuff in the basement for about 10 years and never used it till now. Got a set of these on back order too http://www.quadratec.com/products/16315_6408.htm for the rear to relocate the shock mounts 2 inches higher and it skids the bracket for shock and LCA in the rear.

[JMUJEEP]

ok this is going to sound strange but... Pat did you post pictures in previous posts? if so i'm not seeing any

[Scrambler84]

lots of pics above, right out of my album on the B4WD sight here

[ThinkMud]

Love the red man, love it!

[JMUJEEP]

Now they're showing up ... looking good

[detonator yellow]

Question!
Do you have kiddos?? I'm looking at the 2012 JKU also but I'm worried about the comfort of the back seat. I almost feel claustrophobic back there. But I want one BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Especially after seeing your pics! Beautiful!

[ThinkMud]

I have an 11 year old and a 4 year old and they are fine in the JKU. This past weekend I had 3 11 year olds in the back at Rausch Creek, and 2 of them fell asleep going up a blue with a ton of rocks! Kids are fine in the back of a Jk!

[Scrambler84]

I installed my 2010 JKU Hard top on my 2012, everything fits well and is pretty tight, no wind noise and passed the hose spray test shot directly in the seals for good 5 mins all around, gonna leave it on until it rains a few times for a good real world test. All holes line up, 2 bolts front and 6 bolts rear, the last 2 rear bolt holes are a bit different in that one side of the notch is missing on the tub and you have to hold the clip/nut piece up until it threads, when removed the can be stored in the hardtop storage bin the back of the Jeep. I'll get picks up later today and update this when it rains. I had this top left from my 2010 and hoping to save about $2400 for a new one or the 1600 for dual top group. I don't have the wiring in the 2012 to run the wiper or the hose for the fluid squirter in the back (yes its a technical term lol)

Disclaimer: I'm not recommending this to any and can't be held responsible when yours leaks or flies off going down the road ect. if you do the same thing. Just passing along information as found for the new 2012s.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-M5vIfrso3sI/Tp22YWM4-zI/AAAAAAAABRE/L18KeoPiTd8/s800/RedJK2Hardtop1.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-yFRkOUuS8s4/Tp22YhqnlTI/AAAAAAAABRE/-DuQTzfq8k4/s800/RedJK2Hardtop.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Xw2-dS_jBNo/Tp8E3bqy7nI/AAAAAAAABRc/nfshhwgV3Rc/s800/RedJK2Hardtop2.JPG

I wonder if this is the kit to get the 2010 hardtop to work with my 2012 http://www.quadratec.com/products/11190_0058.htm

[ThinkMud]

Next time ur down this way, swing by and we can compair the connections on the tops.

[Scrambler84]

did you wire yours up yourself? I have thought about just wiring it seperate

[ThinkMud]

have not wired it yet.

But the connection on the hardtop itself looks different than the old one, but not sure if the actual wires are different or not.

I was thinking about just running 2 toggle switches to run the wiper and the defrost, but not sure what all it would need, like power/relays etc... 169 for a wiring harness plus having to have the dealership flash the computer to get the defrost to work (100 bucks i've heard) seems a little pricy...

[H2_RECOVERY]

you guys are hardtop panzies!!!!:first:

[ThinkMud]

I've had so many jeeps that I'm over the whole topless thing. it was fun, but I really don't care anymore. doors off while wheeling is about all I do now with a hardtop.

[Pacifier]

I've had so many jeeps that I'm over the whole topless thing. it was fun, but I really don't care anymore. doors off while wheeling is about all I do now with a hardtop.


So why not get a Commander, Liberty, Patriot, etc. The best part of the Jeep is the ability to take the top off and enjoy the sun over your head. :boink:

PANSIES! :baby:

[ThinkMud]

So why not get a Commander, Liberty, Patriot, etc. The best part of the Jeep is the ability to take the top off and enjoy the sun over your head. :boink:

PANSIES! :baby:

no 4:1 t-case, no solid axles up front, no stock lockers, no huge industry for aftermarket parts.... should i keep going? real jeeps(wranglers and cj, etc..) can go off road and be built, having the top on or off has nothing to do with getting over a rock.:pound:
I can still take the front panels off when I want the sun on my head... which is still nice i suppose. but no room to take the hard top off now, we have 2 trailers in our garage, the new camper is 19 feet long! but... i'll still probably get another soft top for next summer haha

but for this time of year and winter, you can't beat a hardtop!

[Scrambler84]

3.5 AEV Lifted ordered today now the waiting for delivery. bah

[Scrambler84]

Parts removed except springs, brake lines installed
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Rbnn5RWv46k/Tr2S5eHoGtI/AAAAAAAABcU/_jTERLwh8KE/s720/draglink%2Band%2Bsuch%2Boff.JPG

Drivers side exhaust spacer installed
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-C8Bw37EaWFg/Tr2S6kmgnPI/AAAAAAAABck/rQi8hPEP00E/s720/Exhaust%2BSpacer%2BDrivers%2Bside.JPG

Passenger side exhaust spacer installed
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-yqbJqag45Xc/Tr2S6JiUmhI/AAAAAAAABdI/TN0Sv6sSFfU/s720/Exhaust%2BSpacer%2BPassengers%2Bside.JPG
Thanks for the help today Bnizzle - Brendon (one of our newer guys). We got the Brake lines finished off and bled and we got the exhaust spacers installed. PS I did go back and tighten up the Y pipe clamp we forgot. No exhaust leaks. I got the springs out now and it has a whole lot more room for axle drop in the front with the spacers. Still don't like the drive line angle much.

[Bnizzle]

Gota say that rig is nice inside..hell i even think there was a spot for the coffee maker in there!

Was nice to get to work a bit on the new12...got home and told the wife we need to up grade...i got the Vader death stare..so..um not happing..

Sorry i had to bounce..but as we all know..PregO wife = Short leash..but she is feeling better, on a good note.

I think your ride is going to look BA when done (nice bumper btw), i do want to see close ups of those CA drop brackets... If all goes well tomorrow with my bumper in stall i will check in to see how its going if there is time left in the day.

[Pacifier]

You may be better off working outside... That Jeep can barely fit in there :wink:

[Scrambler84]

Drilled holes for the bump stops, installed bump stops and springs, installed shock doubler brackets along with reinstalling the LCA skids and installed the shocks. Tomorrow I start the high steer kit set up. I already have the drag link removed. Still have to drill out the knuckle though for the 7/8 drop in piece, so I can install the flipped drag link.

drivers side
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-07hrxO-cu8E/Tr3_z0y2irI/AAAAAAAABdM/bSdQf7bNEJI/s720/Front%2BShocks%2Band%2BSprings%2B1.JPG

passenger side
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-LGXgh9yyecE/Tr3_0OaYXkI/AAAAAAAABdQ/bqo1SKaEF2U/s720/Front%2BShocks%2Band%2BSprings%2B2.JPG

I cleaned out most of the garage and with it in back end 1st actually have a good amount of room to work on the front. 1 car garages suck what can I say lol.

[Pacifier]

Looking good.

[ThinkMud]

Can't wait to see it lifted Pat! That red really looks good!

[Bnizzle]

OK i got my new bumper on...still need to fix up the wiring for the lights but that should take about an hour max tomorrow. Let me know if your sill slaving away on big red, as the wife is doing the girls day tomorrow and will swing by and get that beast rolling (and pick up my dam hat for work lol)

[Scrambler84]

I'll still be out there I'm heading back out in a few. Posting these after my dinner then back to work. You should post up a build page and some picks on the new bumper. I wan't one of those, have cash in back for it still just to cheap to get it unless the offer up the free shipping.

Installed heavy duty tie rod
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-O87GsGfla18/Tr8UY3dthiI/AAAAAAAABeg/n4lCxtJB2wM/s720/Heavy%2BDuty%2BTie%2BRod%2Binstalled.jpg

drilled out hole for drag link and put in insert and installed new drag link
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1j8vKtCN_Qw/Tr8UYCmhzdI/AAAAAAAABeg/3S_F3-urksQ/s720/Drag%2Blink%2Bflip%252C%2Bdrilled%2Band%2Binstalle d.jpg

removed rear swaybar links and installed them in the front
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-GiB5zpUYchY/Tr8UYTLor9I/AAAAAAAABeg/vWXPxjtFMW4/s720/Rear%2Bswaybar%2Blinks%2Breinstalled%2Bin%2Bfront. jpg

aligned and reconnected the track bar
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-qdoVg522QbQ/Tr8Ua0cGEHI/AAAAAAAABeg/xrORjJM1CzA/s720/Track%2BBar%2Breinstalled%2Bwith%2Bnew%2Bbracket.j pg

[Scrambler84]

Mahaha looks like its done? I wish
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-i3XPQRlE9S8/Tr8Wm4ZOOZI/AAAAAAAABe0/_W8e3hUewqg/s720/BigRed%2Bfront%2Ball%2Bdone.jpg

Told yah its not quite there yet
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-1ntFjoyZc8g/Tr8WnDFEusI/AAAAAAAABe8/CnOhyZEZspU/s720/Well%2Bumm%2Bits%2Bnot%2Bdone%2Byet%2Bduh.jpg

[Scrambler84]

Rear brake lines installed
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-AoQgnGQYqwI/Tr9ioNtatgI/AAAAAAAABfo/xPLOHFHxbFA/s720/Rear%2Bbrakelines%2Bdone.JPG

Rear track bar bracket and new rear track bar installed
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-mnjp51iTRWI/Tr9ioZQf8iI/AAAAAAAABfo/qAciI3KHIJ8/s720/Rear%2Btrake%2Bbar%2Btower%2Band%2Btrack%2Bbar%2Bi nstalled.JPG

All that's left is shocks and springs and then front LCA brackets to finish it off. Then I gotta program the new tires size and adjust steering and get it aligned and good to go.

[H2_RECOVERY]

Quit slacking Pat!!! you should of had it all done in 2 hours with as many times you have lifted a JK!

[Scrambler84]

Well took 2.5 days and alot of work till 1am 2 nights in a row but BIG RED is done. Thanks for the help today again Brenden / Bnizzle with LCA geometry correction brackets and the steering / alignment stuff.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-TTAKmenAYPs/TsBi2q0V4EI/AAAAAAAABgI/HWQkAFG03XU/s720/Big%2BRed.JPG

I even put my tags back on it today, registration showed up Thursday in the mail, just in time for the lift.

[H2_RECOVERY]

Looks good!

I would have saved you money and time just to paint the white one red would have only cost you about $800

[Scrambler84]

BTW I can still chrip the tires in 2nd gear with 35s on it woo hooo, that's some pretty good torque for a JK2.

[ThinkMud]

Looks awesome! And yes, being able to do a burnout with 35" tires is just plain awesome!!!! So worth it for 12!!!

[Bnizzle]

I think i can curp my tires in 2nd...with some pam on them..ok maybe not even then..

[H2_RECOVERY]

I melt my tires starting off in second!!! Silly Boys!

[Scrambler84]

but you don't have a stock engine or drive train lol

[H2_RECOVERY]

This is so true!

[Scrambler84]

Put on these Rear Lower Control Arm Skids with Shock Mount
http://www.quadratec.com/products/16315_6408.htm

They bring the shock mounts up about 1.5 inches and have built 3/16 skid to make smaller strong rock targets

Mounts Cut off
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-GX8-YI5iwlM/TtOMcOvVqFI/AAAAAAAABlQ/H3e80wAS7EU/s720/JK2%2BLCASkids1.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-aOpUBh_DKgo/TtOMcJ_T8rI/AAAAAAAABlU/ev_R6qfrp1Q/s720/JK2%2BLCASkids2.JPG

Driver Side
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XhL5U9r32QM/TtN-TMOWw-I/AAAAAAAABjw/T5nhobhnxXI/s720/Red%2BJK2%2BLCASkids.JPG (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XhL5U9r32QM/TtN-TMOWw-I/AAAAAAAABjw/T5nhobhnxXI/s1152/Red%2BJK2%2BLCASkids.JPG)

Passenger side
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-SnQ893XYsA8/TtN-TWCaZ-I/AAAAAAAABj0/8sGQ3UmVA0c/s720/Red%2BJK2%2BLCASkids2.JPG

[Scrambler84]

This morning both sides little better light
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-YC_w0Y5_gbA/TtN-TcFhydI/AAAAAAAABj8/NCF1lISSpmo/s720/Red%2BJK2%2BLCASkids3.JPG

[ThinkMud]

did you weld those on?

[Scrambler84]

Nope but the can be if you so desire, it shows in the directions where to weld them at. They are bolt on but you have to cut down the original bracket and remove about 1.5 inches of it at the bottom along with the old shock mount. Two 3/8 x 1 inch bolts in the back bolt it to the bracket you cut down, and the 9/16in bolt is longer for the rear LCA mount. They should stay put.

[ThinkMud]

If you want to weld them on, come by this weekend and we can knock it out.

[Bnizzle]

Those look sweet bro, i like how they support the CA's brackets. Not just a weld down them for the cheaper rock plates they have for that.

Stop doing mods that force me to start thinking and spending the kids xmass fund! lol

Oh you get that bumper yet? i got a few tips for ya on install that may or may not apply depending on what mold your bumper came out of (had an issue with frame mounts on a batch of them...of cource i got that one)

[Scrambler84]

No bumper yet, they charged my on the 14th of Nov and the are back ordered still on the damn spindle, so its sitting and waiting, would be nice to have soon. These are my B-day present from the wife. I got them on a week before my B-day lol

[Bnizzle]

do they raise the shock mount? what 1.5 in or something...not sure how that will affect travel for everything. Or is the shock mount at the same location?

Have you stuffed the rear yet to see how it affects the shock travel?

[Scrambler84]

raises shock 1.5 inches, wouldn't think it would effect much except the bump stop needs to be taller to keep the rear springs from coming unseated.

[ThinkMud]

raises shock 1.5 inches, wouldn't think it would effect much except the bump stop needs to be taller to keep the rear springs from coming unseated.

The bump stop wouldn't effect the springs coming unseated, they could come unseated from the droop, not the stuff. Just make sure your shocks don't bottom out at full stuff. from your pics, it doesn't look like much up travel in the shocks, so maybe taller bump stops would help them.

[Bnizzle]

Yep that was my line of thought too, i guess in this case the shock would be the bump stop...till it gets crushed on stuff. Wouldn't think i would want a shock as a bump stop. If, if there is an issue larger bumpstops would fix it, but now your limiting your travel due to a shock.

But then if this was a huge issue of losing 1.5 inches of travel we would not be the first ones to debate it. I say stuff it and see if it stops due to shock or if you clear to bump stop with still some chrome showing on shock...if shock hits first, and still have room till bump stop...ugg will have to then start looking for work around.

[ThinkMud]

he will lose a little up travel, but the benefit would be he is gaining down travel! up travel is not important on the trail, more droop is what you want!

[Scrambler84]

All I have to do is flip the bump stops I have over, they are the 3.5" / 4.5" lift bump stops. They are taller on one side then the other, I'll just roll them 90 and swap the bolts, should be fine, lift comes with both sets of bolts.

[Bnizzle]

he will lose a little up travel, but the benefit would be he is gaining down travel! up travel is not important on the trail, more droop is what you want!

Truth!

[Scrambler84]

Found the fix, talked with the AEV guys about it on AEV forums.

http://www.synergysuspension.com/Synergy-Suspension-Jeep-JK-Rear-Long-Travel-Upper-Shock-Mount-p-29226.html

[Bnizzle]

Those look legit...so with that set up, you lost 1.5in front lower mount..but gaining 2" on top with an over all increase of .5"...(see mongo can do math)

Sounds like a win win...a bit more travel? and moves shock mount up out of the way...let me know how it goes i might just pull the trigger on this set up...

Let me know when you go for install might hop over and check it out

B

[Scrambler84]

only part is both top and bottom require drilling (no biggie) and eww "cutting" I'm already committed so I need to finish it up lol. I had to have the Wife send me the PDF since the sight is blocked at work. You may also require the extra sway bar bracket that takes price from $150 to $185 not that big a deal.

pdf link from me now is
https://docs.google.com/open?id=1WRBecVfCAVcs9rt4SO_Qy9HxD3wEUZ_EoNL4GBXuE Onawy4t__WaYDGYB_CC

[Bnizzle]

Checked out install pics, looks cake imo. Not sure if running a bead along it will help or not, i guess the blots should be ok.

[Scrambler84]

I would think 5 bolts work just fine all pretty good sized and such. just gotta do 3 month inspect and 1 year retorque ect.

[Scrambler84]

Bumper primed

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wQJz--54wfo/Tutsh-5KGRI/AAAAAAAABxY/1bj0evbeSjU/s720/BigRedBumper.JPG

and the extra parts too
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-x4JeUY6k098/TutsixcFs8I/AAAAAAAABxg/8NnKhAV-JIc/s720/BigRedBumper2.JPG

[NYY_XJ]

primed... and ready for... red??

[Scrambler84]

heck no, black like the front the little web bolt on part red yeah rest no way

[NYY_XJ]

pfffft all the cool kids are painting their bumpers to match their JK..

[Bnizzle]

if your scared...say your scared....

[ThinkMud]

hmm... red web would be wicked. all red, not so sure, don't think i've ever seen matching bumpers before that I can remember... oh wait, everything on my 12 matches! all black:first:

[Bnizzle]

lol would love to see everything on his jeep red! (could get some 22"s on there too)

haa i wouldn't point at all when he drives by....

[MUDDYNAT]

Bumper primed

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wQJz--54wfo/Tutsh-5KGRI/AAAAAAAABxY/1bj0evbeSjU/s720/BigRedBumper.JPG

and the extra parts too
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-x4JeUY6k098/TutsixcFs8I/AAAAAAAABxg/8NnKhAV-JIc/s720/BigRedBumper2.JPG

Do black and white to be the soccer mini van hahaha

[Pacifier]

Do black and white to be the soccer mini van hahaha

:pound::croc::caked::boink: That's not right..... LOL!

[Scrambler84]

Bumper on, swing out still needs installed, rigged temp Plate holder and stock plate light to work for now, zip ties are your friend

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wjB8FHVGtug/TvPpCOyL7yI/AAAAAAAAB3A/c-RqfGPfdww/s720/BigRedBumper1.JPG

Spare is back on stock mount for now, get the swing out on tomorrow maybe.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-iCdmwKi0aF0/TvPpBw7mSmI/AAAAAAAAB28/X3TMZS-xiTM/s720/BigRedBumper2.JPG

[Bnizzle]

any bumping on the body? from the areas i showed you?

[Scrambler84]

No body issues, end of the frame was a pain in the ass though, I had to get it on semi straight and then bump my butt into the back of bumper to get it to slide into place for bolts ect to line up.

Morning Pic
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-99zN7k_PlUE/TvRzL6M0SiI/AAAAAAAAB3o/lTRIH8r0n0Y/s720/BigRedBumper3.JPG

and rigged up plate holder / Light holder. Back is rubbermaid container lid(I have about 100 from moving last time) and zip ties
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-z6z79FA7g5s/TvRzMUy_LCI/AAAAAAAAB3w/92NZ-AN005w/s720/BigRedBumper4.JPG

[Bnizzle]

lol nice plate holder...

i used a jack under it to line up the holes, worked pretty good and a good swift two footed kick works every time.

now we just need to get that red painted blue :)

[Bnizzle]

oh and watch the color change on the light power wire when you wire it up to the back up lights...tricky bastards got me for like 3 extra connections till i figured it out..(more of me being tired and trying to hurry up and get it done)

[ThinkMud]

Looks good man!

[YJSos]

Nice lookin JK!! Good job

[Pacifier]

Bolt on parts rock! :bounce:

Regardless... The JK is looking good.

[Scrambler84]

Didn't leave the 3rd brake light like that but the pics shows the spider web in lower passenger side well.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-_bOUnXNWVBY/Tv_mN8M3LCI/AAAAAAAAB40/1icY9kDeW1A/s720/BigRedBumper3.5.JPG

moved brake light for now, wiring and all and rerouted CB antenna cable too
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-C7XiMGtfzoc/Tv_lDJuGc1I/AAAAAAAAB4U/3ZSF9bEuFJI/s720/BigRedBumper3.JPG

Gotta fix up the tag now, im sure some pooolice love to yell at me cause its partially blocked
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-PDiydZxhgrE/Tv_lC8nYSDI/AAAAAAAAB4Q/oEfMwN64wEQ/s720/BigRedBumper4.JPG

[H2_RECOVERY]

Your gonna need to move the tag. Big Brother can't red it! Looks really nice!!!

[Scrambler84]

Your gonna need to move the tag. Big Brother can't red it! Looks really nice!!!

yeah I figured that just need to get through the wheeling at GWNF today then I can move it. At least its sort of legal almost.

[Bnizzle]

For your light...i would recommend running that cable down the tire swing to the swivel, can be zipped tied easy, then down behind the bumper.

you can then run it up under the body to the side grommet that also houses the tail lights, it brings the wires from inside the truck to the outside for the tail lights... pop off the tail light, to help move the wire from under the body to the grommet, and run the wire right up and wire it up in the cab to make sure it stays clean and dry....

did the same on the other side for the back up lights..no connections spliced outside of the truck means i don't have to worry about road grime.

I would take ten sec if you need pics...let me know

B

[Scrambler84]

Wilson's Jeep Shop - Heavy Duty CB Mount for 2007 - 2012 JK

Fully adjust able and short enough to keep the metal off the plastic of the center console. Very solid made from 1/8 plate for set bracket and 3/16 channel for the swing arm. All made from scrap metal I had laying around.

Mount Drawing
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-NIewmtLX2lI/TyaoQ3vuymI/AAAAAAAACXQ/DLfnsVLLYZc/s375/CBMount.JPG

Mount, straight on above
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-A-QOTQOwiMk/TyagiR-wG3I/AAAAAAAACWw/KNKbVXLfCWA/s640/2012-01-30.jpg

Mount, on angle to show bolts ect.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ggwdUPj_EgI/Tyal1gtIK_I/AAAAAAAACW4/E_26cJptek4/s640/2012-01-30.jpg

[ThinkMud]

Nice! I have mine over my rear view mirror, but was thinking of moving it to around that location, since my hardtop likes to leak directly above it now, haha...

Good job man! now make me one:party:

[Scrambler84]

LOL I have more of the seat mount part, its part of the 1/8 thick L bracket used to ship Cisco 7000 switches for our data center, I don't have any more of the swing arm stock. I need to get a better picture of it later today in the sunlight. I took a walk and got 2 more pics.

Mount, from door
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-yYzMhooxN40/TyazhK_T_7I/AAAAAAAACXo/6SihD402bHk/s640/CBMount1.JPG

Mount, straight on.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-smn7ii-FyUA/TyazhwKjkkI/AAAAAAAACXw/nkkNUv8mMUo/s640/CBMount2.JPG

[Scrambler84]

Added plate across the front to help hold CB case together
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-eiE0Iaj0Egk/Tykzeb6qg4I/AAAAAAAACY8/bSYEWhe30dE/s640/2012-02-01

[H2_RECOVERY]

I thought that mini van had a bluetooth cb???
:boink:

[Pacifier]

It does.... That one is just a back up. You don't want to miss the soccer games after all.:first:

[Scrambler84]

that is a Bluetooth CB actually, lol. Got these 200lbs worth of steel in boxes yesterday
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YJh-LRTaDLM/T1dUzkgMK-I/AAAAAAAACsk/qr-E8F6BnhM/s680/2012-03-07

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--nSLYQV9ViA/T1dUzhVr5RI/AAAAAAAACsk/3hWPhXDqyog/s680/2012-03-07

[Bnizzle]

Drool....when you installing?!? will try to swing by and break something for you

[Scrambler84]

most likely this weekend if its warm

[Bnizzle]

Oh lookie lookie at your fancy avatar...looks good need to get that emblem on a shirt quick fast and a hurry

[Scrambler84]

I edit the beltway one just to poke Frank, wasn't any fun he didn't even react

[Scrambler84]

So I had this all kinda assembled since it doesn't really come with directions, then I took it apart and did it as I saw fit, found it easiest to lay on back and put the skid on chest, install Skid hangers on to the engine mount bolts and then push the skid itself up and put in top most bolt on either side of skid loosely. After that I screwed in drivers side bolt on cross member in the back of the plate. I then but in second bolts on either side of the engine mount hangers. After all where loosely bolt up to hold it in place moved it around to have best clearance in the front of the engine and tightened engine mounts to 45lbs torque, then tightened front most bolts to 45lbs, then rear bolts to 45 lbs, then drilled hole for the passenger side cross member attachment point and tightened both rear bolts to 45 lbs sliding open end box wrench inside cross member to hold the bolt and using allen wrench bit socket on torque wrench. Picks show skid on wood but found it was easier to hold it on chest to install.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-5Ta11RN-elA/T13xboQVFUI/AAAAAAAACs4/a9XgYDnFSlE/s720/SkidDriver.JPG

Skid drivers side, near bottom of pick is the drivers side engine mount hangar with the hook piece, found that I had to spread the hook just a bit to get it to fit over the engine mount bolt. I also ground the opening of the 1/2 inch spacer a bit wider to allow fitting over the bolt as it would go on when I 1st got it. I also ground it down about 1/8 of an inch to let all threads on engine mount bolt catch once bolt was tightened back down. putting it in at 1/2 thick left about 2-3 threads inside the nut unused.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-zM9aF9RtO7U/T13xb3TTXzI/AAAAAAAACtE/fv7L2kWq9pU/s720/SkidDriverBrackets.JPG


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-NsW6-9sWZeU/T13xc-F-s0I/AAAAAAAACtQ/S3XNokQU1lY/s720/SkidPassenger.JPG
Near bottom of pick is the drivers side engine mount hangar with the hook piece.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MeGk1vOPf9E/T13xb9U6Y6I/AAAAAAAACs8/5o7FS2jud2o/s720/SkidEngineMountPassenger.JPG

[Scrambler84]

More picks
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5Z9oHhn-J7g/T13xcxNueCI/AAAAAAAACtU/s8oN71yr8Yc/s720/SkidEngineMountPassengerBracket.JPG
Passenger side engine mount with bracket installed

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-KvGWgRGsbx4/T13xdfimSQI/AAAAAAAACtg/ReKo7CDuYdI/s720/SkidPassengerBracket.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-7Pawnp6Eae8/T13xeKS3AEI/AAAAAAAACuI/9yBXckiUcJo/s720/SkidPassengerTogether.JPG

[Bnizzle]

so its complete now? or just the line up complete?

[ThinkMud]

Do you still have your stock tie-rod? can i borrow it if you do? I want to put a stocker back on and dial in my tow-in to see if that is causing some steering issues on my JK.. My RK tie-rod can't be adjusted to the proper tow-in (it's the beefy 1st gen of their 1-ton tie-rod). Their newer ones are more adjustable, but not as strong. But I may have to go to one of those if the stock tie-rod fixes my pulling issue... pulls constantly in either direction, and sometimes switches on me at the worst times LOL

[Scrambler84]

so its complete now? or just the line up complete?
Just the front engine oil pan and transmission one is on, still have to install the transfer case and cross member one and the gas tank one over the stock gas tank one which requires notching the stock gas tank skid to allow the hangers for the new skid to fit over the stock one. I'll grab a pick later today from the front of the vehicle to show what's now on it.


I want to put a stocker back on and dial in my tow-in to see if that is causing some steering issues on my JK.. My RK tie-rod can't be adjusted to the proper tow-in (it's the beefy 1st gen of their 1-ton tie-rod). Their newer ones are more adjustable, but not as strong.
Should be able to adjust it, just requires removing it ever time to twist the ends in or out accordingly, that's one of the reasons bought the poly tie rod, full adjustable while on the vehicle and as strong as the one you have. My stupid alignment is off again so I gotta get tape and roll it forward and back doing measurements.

Found out I really need the PSC boat side rockers, had to spend 20 mins straightening out a bent backwards body mount that must have brushed a rock at Rausch Creek.

http://shop.poisonspyder.com/Jeep-JK-4-Door-Brawler-Rockers-Steel-p/18-08-200.htm

[ThinkMud]

Should be able to adjust it, just requires removing it ever time to twist the ends in or out accordingly, that's one of the reasons bought the poly tie rod, full adjustable while on the vehicle and as strong as the one you have. My stupid alignment is off again so I gotta get tape and roll it forward and back doing measurements.

I can adjust it, but only one full turn of the tie-rod end at a time, so it can't get dialed in perfect, it's either too much in, or out, can't get the 1/8th that is spec, i'm a tad over 1/4" in, but one full turn makes me tow-out:( My tie-rod has the 2 right side Moog ends, so they are both right hand threaded. but they are beefy:) I'm as close it can get unfortunately (this is why they changed their design).

[Scrambler84]

yeah I did that research and said nice product but can't do the wandering people where having with it, mines seems to unadjust it self though, I need to locktite it after I set it right again.

[Bnizzle]

I have also been drooling over those dam rocker guards...was hoping to find a deal on them, but might just have to pull the trigger before the big summer runs..

So the gas tank skid goes over the stock one? better toss on a thick coat of sealer on the stock skid, if you have any scuffs on that bad boy she will turn in to dust in a few years...but then again you already have it covered..

[Scrambler84]

Picks cause it happened, about an hour to install, had to loosen the one in front to push it just a hair forward.

No skid
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-PhmQdp37PhA/T2HeFogI52I/AAAAAAAACus/h2wJuAvkHio/s720/NoSkid.JPG

The skid
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Srh5khoc7pk/T2HeF2xbSrI/AAAAAAAACuw/UkAa54CEZoQ/s720/Skid.JPG

Skid installed
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5QvFmxlqe4A/T2HeGLEpHoI/AAAAAAAACu8/7yXkIiI40eE/s720/SkidInstalled.JPG


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-DDKOAC2YgQA/T2HeGsgpPjI/AAAAAAAACvE/bmqvRY2xevk/s720/SkidInstalled2.JPG

[Scrambler84]

All tightened up and complete and oil pain drain triangle put
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hsB01lpkVzs/T2HeGpR_bUI/AAAAAAAACvM/-g8eh_xz0Q8/s720/SkidInstalled3.JPG

[Bnizzle]

HUM...sexy bottom pat...(never thought i would say that to a guy)

[JMUJEEP]

HUM...sexy bottom pat...(never thought i would say that to a guy)

its probably the first and last time Pat will ever hear it :pound:

[Scrambler84]

so since it was supposed to be rainy all weekend, I worked on another project I had wanted to do instead of installing the gas tank skid since my Jeep doesn't easily fit in the one car garage.

Deck Lid Cover

1st part of deck cover cut out friday night
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ibcjvlptdzE/T285dN3DRJI/AAAAAAAACwo/rSxxOMR7w6A/s720/Decklid1Rear.JPG

2nd piece finshed last night
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-S9s5g1-04ZA/T285c2axXYI/AAAAAAAACwk/we8uDeh0gd4/s720/Decklid2Side.JPG
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-X0BUkWzDmtc/T285dXKQORI/AAAAAAAACww/sjIGXedB7Zs/s720/Decklid3Middle.JPG


I counter sunk the bolt holes and planning on routing the edges around the tub round, Going to go look for some thin black outdoor carpet today

[ThinkMud]

That looks good man!

[NYY_XJ]

that is sweet looking, finding carpet for it shouldn't be hard.. could always get it online, ebay is your friend, so is amazon.

[Scrambler84]

Checked out Homedepot and all they had was green, navy blue and gray thin outside carpet. No black, so if i had a 2010 with gray interior I would be set lol

[Scrambler84]

Today new picks before taking it off to route edges
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-oNj38PaDapA/T29lvO7tSLI/AAAAAAAACxY/_hOWT1qGX5U/s640/Decklid4RearAll.JPG
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Wqq25azyqUQ/T29lvH6eIXI/AAAAAAAACxc/FeVZqfK_Er0/s640/Decklid5SideRear.JPG

[Scrambler84]

Today new picks before taking it off to route edges
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-oNj38PaDapA/T29lvO7tSLI/AAAAAAAACxY/_hOWT1qGX5U/s640/Decklid4RearAll.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Wqq25azyqUQ/T29lvH6eIXI/AAAAAAAACxc/FeVZqfK_Er0/s640/Decklid5SideRear.JPG

[Scrambler84]

Routed edges
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UqBCWQ5CfzU/T2-UALs66pI/AAAAAAAACyY/HhHE4w12FBM/s670/Decklid6Side.JPG

Top Down resting on the deck cover
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-NnkZmtOzyvI/T2-UAOialYI/AAAAAAAACyY/AT68Ppwc6cE/s669/Decklid7Topdown.JPG

[blthomas]

That's some fine work. I think either a black or gray carpet would be cool. Maybe some bungee hoops for cooler or loose clothing storage.

[Scrambler84]

I got a piece of E-track to cut up and put on top. just need to get the snap in rings for it then strap down anything I want on top

[blthomas]

Thats pretty sweet with the e-track.

[MarineDawg]

Looks good Pat. I have two I think 6ft lengths of e-track if anyone wants them.

[ThinkMud]

Looks good Pat. I have two I think 6ft lengths of e-track if anyone wants them.

I'll take em! I want to build something similar!

[Scrambler84]

So could I, could grab them and drop one at Thinkmuds house lol, I did figure out why a few companies make a box and leave the sides open, so the arms for soft top have a place to fold into inside the rear tub area.

[ThinkMud]

So could I, could grab them and drop on at Thinkmuds house lol, I did figure out why a few companies make a box and leave the sides open, so the arms for soft top have a place to fold into inside the rear tub area.

we could split them:)

[Bnizzle]

That looks great P, making me feel ashamed that i have been to busy to tinker with old blue...

[MarineDawg]

Yeah let me know. I have the kids all week. So I will be here.

[Scrambler84]

Finally got back under the Jeep and got the last River Raider Skid on

best way to do this after having completed it a 2nd time I remembered about half way through it, bolt the small extension pieces on to the skid plate loosely 1st then bolt the front most 2 bolts then push it into place then bolt it all up and tighten it

Cut out for middle skid hanger, paint with rustoleum after cutting these out. keep it form rusting
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ziKoldwbnQM/T4DgQbbnbDI/AAAAAAAACyw/EQOoOmi7x0k/s720/Cut%2520out%2520for%2520Skid%2520hanger%2520middle .JPG

Cut out for rear skid hanger
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-FJnTWKSIfGw/T4DgQ5VehhI/AAAAAAAACy4/AFDseAZOqGA/s720/Cut%2520out%2520for%2520Skid%2520hanger%2520rear.J PG

this is how the hanger for the middle mounts
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uL-ju8XLfJ8/T4DgSTRKxgI/AAAAAAAACzY/cBYbefYH0Wk/s720/Skid%2520mount%2520middle%2520inside.JPG

this is how the hanger for the rear mounts
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-h3YznySa2Y8/T4DgS_CrJcI/AAAAAAAACzg/ylcxFTy6pUY/s720/Skid%2520mount%2520rear%2520inside.JPG

[Scrambler84]

passenger skid rear mount, tire removed for easy access
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-nprvl7L2NS4/T4DgTkt9m4I/AAAAAAAACzo/qevgDfeNXSM/s720/Skid%2520mount%2520rear%2520passenger.JPG

Shows Front cut out sections and mounts for passenger side
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-daDytI3ktws/T4DgRWzX5GI/AAAAAAAACzA/Jy2652cNLa8/s720/Cut%2520out%2520skid%2520hanger%2520passenger%2520 side.JPG

propped up on 4x4s to get it bolted on
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-QHgQEypwXKc/T4DgSHCIFdI/AAAAAAAACzQ/h7YLtpnKhMI/s720/Skid%2520lifted%2520into%2520place.JPG

Used floor jack to push it into place, weighs like 100 lbs or so
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-peSoNwBxSH8/T4DgRljo6pI/AAAAAAAACzI/ewjeVdrMttQ/s720/Skid%2520in%2520place%2520bolts%2520on.JPG

[Scrambler84]

Completed and back on the street
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5c4RTRxxqDw/T4DgTu7U9KI/AAAAAAAACzs/XXlWdPNLS7Y/s720/Skid%2520mounted%2520all%2520done.JPG

Used the trail vice to unbend the drive shaft side rear most mount to get it all situated and bolted up tight. worked great glad I bought it
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-EW5zikY-CnE/T4DgUbyOcpI/AAAAAAAACz4/8hTV0hkyRdg/s720/Vice%2520Rocks.JPG

[Scrambler84]

Next project is these for rock lights under the Jeep.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Ep3YhBsdbTA/T4DwAaQs_-I/AAAAAAAAC0Q/q3WZLjw8C6U/s720/2012-04-07.jpg

That is a section of only 6 of them with 9volt battery, 12 volt+ will be brighter

[Flexxj90]

Completed and back on the street
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5c4RTRxxqDw/T4DgTu7U9KI/AAAAAAAACzs/XXlWdPNLS7Y/s720/Skid%2520mounted%2520all%2520done.JPG

Used the trail vice to unbend the drive shaft side rear most mount to get it all situated and bolted up tight. worked great glad I bought it
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-EW5zikY-CnE/T4DgUbyOcpI/AAAAAAAACz4/8hTV0hkyRdg/s720/Vice%2520Rocks.JPG
you needs :http://www.interstateplastics.com/Natl-Hdpe-Cutting-Board-Sheet-HDPNEC.php

[Bnizzle]

Next project is these for rock lights under the Jeep.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Ep3YhBsdbTA/T4DwAaQs_-I/AAAAAAAAC0Q/q3WZLjw8C6U/s720/2012-04-07.jpg

That is a section of only 6 of them with 9volt battery, 12 volt+ will be brighter

You going to wire them up to the SUB...so you can have the flashy flash with the bumpin tunes?!...:second:

[ThinkMud]

Did I miss the pics of the finished cargo deck? Did u just carpet it? Now that I have a soft top again I need to do this.

[Scrambler84]

nope its still bare, can't find anything black i want to put on it. using as is for the moment, bah

[ThinkMud]

nope its still bare, can't find anything black i want to put on it. using as is for the moment, bah

Black spray paint for now wouldn't look bad. I need to try and build something this weekend like that.

also, which model shocks did you get? I need to order some b/c my shocks aren't long enough, haha.

[JMUJEEP]

nope its still bare, can't find anything black i want to put on it. using as is for the moment, bah

double check with Mike to make sure he doesn't have plans for it but the rubber bedliner from Dave's MJ is still in the cage at the high school why not paint the wood black then glue some of that black rubber down there... or just buy a can of this to spray on it... http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_Bed-Armor&153;-DIY-Truck-Bed-Liner,-Black,-16-5-oz--Aerosol-Duplicolor_10066313-P_N3419C_A|GRP60026_____ (http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_Bed-Armor&153;-DIY-Truck-Bed-Liner,-Black,-16-5-oz--Aerosol-Duplicolor_10066313-P_N3419C_A%7CGRP60026_____)

[Scrambler84]

Cause carpet looks better

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Tn3LokZa9PI/T57JXPWtY4I/AAAAAAAAC2I/ysRgWB44MYE/s720/DeckCarpet1.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-FfDG434L6cs/T57JXT9LFgI/AAAAAAAAC2I/LfjxZ950kCw/s720/DeckCarpet2.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-vDsiTiEBC7Y/T57JXj0uZ1I/AAAAAAAAC2I/FDZSQ8c1cF4/s720/DeckCarpet3.JPG

[Scrambler84]

and E-track painted black is way cooler

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-CViqKflel6U/T57L0HRyojI/AAAAAAAAC3E/uiwIGLY8clE/s720/DeckTrack1.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Kpgjo9QyfoA/T57L0JMIYVI/AAAAAAAAC3I/nCL_O9Wx8Ns/s720/DeckTrack2.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-aWLz6Ayszko/T57L0LiTuAI/AAAAAAAAC3A/b7G7Sr00XIk/s720/DeckTrack3.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-TOht4CKDAhw/T57L08XazhI/AAAAAAAAC3Y/4rwD39gK5fk/s720/DeckTrack4.JPG

And I need another piece of it to finish off the back section

[ThinkMud]

Looks awesome man! I need to build something for mine.

[NYY_XJ]

nice work! carpet was definitely worth it..

[H2_RECOVERY]

whats an e rack?

[blthomas]

whats an e track?

Same stuff used in delivery trucks and big tractor trailers. Has clips on end of straps that clip into the slot then you can ratchet the straps down tight.

At least the ones I used were ratchet style.

[Scrambler84]

what he said yup

[MUDDYNAT]

Pat you should put two 15" subwoofers in the middle of that cover now and go to bass off contest!! Looks good dude! Bad ass idea might steal it some day........

[Scrambler84]

2nd piece carpet was in so I finished it off.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-69AP7Z24adI/T6fHqx2kCaI/AAAAAAAAC54/BKh2Xr6RrC0/s720/DeckFinshed1.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-MKrSObvRBOQ/T6fHq3i-qmI/AAAAAAAAC50/h3rxma7PYvM/s720/DeckFinshed2.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_4NGZid7YXI/T6fHqy5MO_I/AAAAAAAAC58/CCpOuk-eV6g/s720/DeckFinshed3.JPG

[ThinkMud]

That looks awesome man!

[JMUJEEP]

did you take those pictures at night to hide your imperfections? :pound:

[Scrambler84]

yeah thats it, nah just finished about 830 last night

[JMUJEEP]

definitely looks good... if i had a jk or an lj i'd definitely be making one of those

[Z Monster]

:usa:Looks great, the carpet was worth the wait.

[NYY_XJ]

looking good... get some of those red LEDs and light behind the tie-down system

[Scrambler84]

No Doors and Top
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-WfGfTSNN9zI/T62umDmXj7I/AAAAAAAAC6w/9hTVBPRBrSg/s720/NoDoorsnTop1.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CAH-ic-bmfI/T62umYuU4zI/AAAAAAAAC60/rh5WgLSSFaQ/s720/NoDoorsnTop2.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Rg1C9x8F2Tg/T62una7UNPI/AAAAAAAAC7A/K6Z_Kzcuocs/s720/NoDoorsnTop3.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-IZp77zyFRBo/T62uola2ouI/AAAAAAAAC7I/cI4bHueT4FU/s720/NoDoorsnTop4.JPG