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04-25-2006, 12:16 PM
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:29 am Post subject: Come back and tell me you are against the war.... Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post Delete this post View IP address of poster
In Iraq after you read this......

Please print this thread and shove it up your "Oil War" a@@@@. That is if there is room in there beside your heads.
passthebrass.com/2005/...the-means/
Mom,

Be my voice. I want this message heard. It is mine and my platoon’s to the country. A man I know lost his legs the other night. He is in another company in our battalion. I can no longer be silent after watching the sacrifices made by Iraqis and Americans everyday .Send it to a congressman if you have to. Send it to FOX news if you have to. Let this message be heard please…

My fellow Americans, I have a task for those with the courage and fortitude to take it. I have a message that needs not fall on deaf ears. A vision the blind need to see. I am not a political man nor one with great wisdom. I am just a soldier who finds himself helping rebuild a country that he helped liberate a couple years ago.
I have watched on television how the American public questions why their mothers, fathers, brothers, and sisters are fighting and dying in a country 9000 miles away from their own soil. Take the word of a soldier, for that is all I am, that our cause is a noble one. The reason we are here is one worth fighting for. A cause that has been the most costly and sought after cause in our small span of existence on our little planet. Bought in blood and paid for by those brave enough to give the ultimate sacrifice to obtain it. A right that is given to every man, woman, and child I believe by God. I am talking of freedom.

Freedom. One word but yet countless words could never capture it’s true meaning or power. “For those who have fought for it, freedom has a taste the protected will never know.” I read that once and it couldn’t be more true. It’s not the average Americans fault that he or she is “blind and deaf” to the taste of freedom. Most Americans are born into their God given right so it is all they ever know. I was once one of them. I would even dare to say that it isn’t surprising that they take for granted what they have had all their life. My experiences in the military however opened my eyes to the truth.

Ironically you will find the biggest outcries of opposition to our cause from those who have had no military experience and haven’t had to fight for freedom. I challenge all of those who are daring enough to question such a noble cause to come here for just a month and see it first hand. I have a feeling that many voices would be silenced.

I watched Cindy Sheehan sit on the President’s lawn and say that America isn’t worth dying for. Later she corrected herself and said Iraq isn’t worth dying for. She badmouthed all that her son had fought and died for. I bet he is rolling over in his grave.

Ladies and gentleman I ask you this. What if you lived in a country that wasn’t free? What if someone told you when you could have heat, electricity, and water? What if you had no sewage systems so human waste flowed into the streets? What if someone would kill you for bad-mouthing your government? What if you weren’t allowed to watch TV, connect to the internet, or have cell phones unless under extreme censorship? What if you couldn’t put shoes on your child’s feet?

You need not to have a great understanding of the world but rather common sense to realize that it is our duty as HUMAN BEINGS to free the oppressed. If you lived that way would you not want someone to help you????

The Iraqi’s pour into the streets to wave at us and when we liberated the cities during the war they gathered in the thousands to cheer, hug and kiss us. It was what the soldier’s in WW2 experienced, yet no one questioned their cause!! Saddam was no better than Hitler! He tortured and killed thousands of innocent people. We are heroes over here, yet Americans badmouth our President for having us here.

Every police station here has a dozen or more memorials for officers that were murdered trying to ensure that their people live free. These are husbands, fathers, and sons killed every day. What if it were your country? What would your choice be? Everything we fight for is worth the blood that may be shed. The media never reports the true HEROISM I witness everyday in the Iraqi’s. Yes there are bad ones here, but I assure you they are a minuscule percent. Yet they are a number big enough to cause worry in this country’s future.
I have watched brave souls give their all and lose their lives and limbs for this cause. I will no longer stand silent and let the “deaf and blind” be the only voice shouting. Stonewall Jackson once said, “All that I have, all that I am is at the service of the country.” For these brave souls who gave the ultimate sacrifice, including your son Cindy Sheehan, I will shout till I can no longer. These men and women are heroes. Their spirit lives on in their military and they will never be forgotten. They did not die in vain but rather for a cause that is larger than all of us.

My fellow countrymen and women, we are not overseas for our country alone but also another. We are here to spread democracy and freedom to those who KNOW the true taste of it because they fight for it everyday. You can see the desire in their eyes and I am honored to fight alongside them as an Infantryman in the 101st Airborne.

Freedom is not free, but yet it is everyone's right to have. Ironic isn’t it? That is why we are here. Though you will always have the skeptics, I know that most of our military will agree with this message. Please, at the request of this soldier spread this message to all you know. We are in Operation Iraqi Freedom and that is our goal. It is a cause that I and thousands of others stand ready to pay the ultimate sacrifice for because, Cindy Sheehan, freedom is worth dying for, no matter what country it is! And after the world is free only then can we hope to have peace.

SGT Walter J. Rausch and 1st Platoon
101st Airborne Division (Air Assault)

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I've been web wheeling for almost a year. But I've been reading the PBB almost religiously. So does that make me all talk and no rock???

H2_RECOVERY
04-25-2006, 12:17 PM
Re-posted with permission from Americanpolitics.com

A Sober Call for President Bush to Serve in Iraq
... along with Richard Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Colin Powell, and Condi Rice
... and if they go, I go too!
by Jeff Koopersmith

April 14, 2006—PALM BEACH (apj.us)—I am reminded of the battle for the 1952 Republican nomination for president between Dwight Eisenhower and Robert Taft. General Eisenhower announced at that time that he would personally go to Korea and lead an end that miserable fracas.

There has been no such foolishness from George W. Bush, a trusted and talented fighter pilot who should be pressed by the American population, both supporters and detractors, to promise the same.

After all, the President seems eager to stick out the war in Iraq, despite the fact that the death toll of Americans and Iraqis increases each day, continuing to destroy his already mottled legacy—yet we do not see him truly stepping up to his much-flaunted role as Commander-in-Chief.

I ask, “Where’s the beef?”

Bush, relying on his insincere, self-laudatory history in the Texas National Guard, and with the same blood running in his veins that produced his father—another war hero—should have absolutely no dilemma in deciding to lead our young boys and girls into battle.

In addition, our President is young, strong enough to clear tons of brush from his ranch in Texas, and has little to do domestically. His efforts on education, the environment, health care, Medicaid and Medicare have all been dismal failures. His work toward rebuilding much of the coastal South after two hurricanes decimated its infrastructure is a laughing stock among other industrial nations. His efforts to control illegal and legal immigration have failed. His tax policies have failed all but the wealthiest of us. He has succeeded almost single-handedly in making us a laughingstock among nations.

Res ipsa loquitur: The President can serve us best by putting his own life on the line for the people who trusted and voted for him. I am sure Bush’s mother and wife will support him wholeheartedly, much as they claim to support the mothers and wives of those he had sent to their deaths in Iraq.

“Captain Don” Rumsfeld is also more than fit enough to lead our troops. He attended Princeton University on academic and ROTC scholarships (you paid for his education), served in the US Navy (1954-57) as a pilot and flight instructor. In 1957, he transferred to the Ready Reserve and continued his naval service until 1975. He transferred to the Standby Reserve when he became Secretary of Defense during the Ford Administration in 1975 and to the Retired Reserve with the rank of Captain in 1989.

With Rummy’s flying talents, he, if the President so chooses, could be Mr. Bush’s wing man and do a fine job of it.

Now we turn to the Vice President, and the man most likely to eventually be proven the iniquitous puppetmaster who engineered the overall destruction of Middle East security and the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent men, women and children—and that doesn't include our own troops or those of our allies imprudent enough, or should I say greedy or frightened enough, to have gone along.

Republicans are quick to defend Mr. Cheney and his wife, whose own history is marked by a reputation nearly equal to his for being at the wrong place at the wrong time. His fellows are quick to defend him because he, personally, is the premier corporate fundraiser for the Republican National Committee. The adage, “It takes one to know one” (or “the fox smells his own hole”) is not wasted on this man.

Few would disagree that that our Vice President deserves most to lead his own unit into the kind of urban guerilla warfare that only the most dangerous regions of Iraq afford. While Mr. Cheney does have a heart condition that might exclude him in a draft, he is quick to point out that America has an “all-volunteer” army, which is tantamount to saying we had an all-volunteer African slave force prior to 1864. That aside, there is no reason why the Vice President should not put his body where his mouth is—and I will certainly be more than willing to cart his defibrillator for him as he leads us into battle against what he calls a few “dustups” in Baghdad.

No single American could possibly gain more much-needed humbleness and wisdom from such a brave move as would Mr. Cheney.

Finally, we turn to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who has managed single-handedly to engineer Colin Powell’s demise, the muddled result of which being that we find ourselves mired in Korea, Iran, Afghanistan, all nations in conflict in Africa, Iraq—and of course her idiot roadmap for the Israelis and the Palestinians, who have just elected a gang of murderers to lead that territory against Israel in an ever-spiraling vortex of blood staining the desert floor.

Ms. Rice is certainly not prepared to fight in Iraq. However, one need only read the ten-thousand-word puff piece about her piano playing in, God help us, the New York Times last week to realize that she could easily buoy and simultaneously bore our troops to death traveling through the nastiest battlegrounds of Fallujah.

That leaves you and me.

I have already volunteered to accompany the Vice President as defib toter—and I seriously make the pledge—if he goes, I go (if he’ll have me).

Then there is you.

Will you join me in pledging to join Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Ms. Rice and me in Iraq to prove what the Administration is doing is the right thing, the American thing to do?

If so, simply sign up by clicking below: please include your name or pseudonym, your age, sex, city and state as well as your e-mail address to prove to the President we’re behind him.

And lest you hawkish members of Congress—on both sides of the aisle—think you can ignore this, don’t. We know you read this column and we expect you help from the Bush brigade in the shortest possible time.



JEFF KOOPERSMITH is a political consultant, opinion research authority, policy analyst, and self-described "renegade lobbyist."

To join Jeff, send your particulars to joinbush@koopersmith.com

Stowe63
04-25-2006, 12:54 PM
I am all for the military, but these type of "letters" remind me of the gasoline e-mails, the dead billionares lawyer trying to smuggle millions out of the country etc..etc..

...as I am for the War in Iraq to a point, but whats w/ our gas prices? The democrates said we were going over there for more oil etc...

ToBlave
04-25-2006, 03:27 PM
This "letter" by Jeff Koopersmith is an argument by Emotive Language (Appeal To The People). I like to call it the martyrdom argument because the person behind it usually wished the subject would just go off a die, leaving a political void to be fill by someone more to their liking. Say, like... JFK fighting on the front line of Equal Rights and taking a shot to the head for foolishly placing himself out for display. We'll go with that image without muddling it with his addiction to pain killers, adultery, and tendency to micromanage issues almost into failure. Thinking back on it, no one called for JFK or McNamara to personally go over to Vietnam and lead a charge against the NVC... That's the point in Jeff Koopersmith's position, it lacks logic and it lacks perspective.

Speaking of perspective... After WWII troops were stationed in Germany for martial law and to facilitate their nation's rebuild. Do we still have troops stationed in Germany? If there is another war will it happen in Europe, the Middle East or Africa and how does that answer affection the garrisoning of troops and military assets? Think Cold War, US vs. Russia in a military ground campaign.

02tj
04-25-2006, 05:38 PM
ok dave ya lost me again! ..........lol

MarineDawg
12-29-2006, 11:58 PM
You know what really pisses me off? The fact that any of you who have not served sit here and come up with bull-crap like this! You have no f-in clue what goes on there except what you see on the news and hear from the other cowards that spout off at the mouth back here! Why not talk to the people who have or are currently over there? You will get mixed opinions of our involvement there from the people living it; not some f-in coward that did'nt have the sack to serve like the rest of his family before him; or the coward that ran off to Canada to avoid his duty. These e-mails serve no purpose whatsoever. All this does is spread dissent amongst everyone it affects. Those of us who were there and those of us whose family members are there. NOT the cowards that ran from it or the cowards that think it will feed their coward cause. All I am saying is, if you say you support the troops then do it! Ask them their opinions of whats going on; not someone who is back here and upset about govt. spending or 3000 people dead. Look back at previous wars. We lost more people than that in a couple hours. I have lost several good friends over there, my wife is there, and to see diarhea like this on a site meant for friendship makes me ill. God Bless our troops and God Bless all of you!

Jeremy

Stowe63
12-30-2006, 12:02 AM
...so.... since my dad was in the Navy and my bro is the Marine Corp... means Im a coward cause Im not in the military?

MarineDawg
12-30-2006, 12:08 AM
My bad folks! Forgot this was deleted. Just a little testy right now. Now I'll go after spammers,STOWE, and Gonzo!

LeadBait
12-30-2006, 11:26 PM
Saddam's hanging (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1734042717556560160&q=saddam+executed&hl=en)

Apparently videoed from a cellphone...the whole thing.